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Altering The Rondo Discussion

 

Today, over at Sports on Earth, I wrote a column on the never-ending conversation we keep having about Rajon Rondo’s future with the Boston Celtics. Check it out, and feel free to leave some thoughts in the comments, either here or there (we both know you have some!).

Look for a brief excerpt after the jump.

There’s nothing wrong with saying “the Celtics have to trade Rondo,” but most who do just step on an escalator to nowhere. Answers to key follow-up questions such as “Where?” or “For what?” are hardly ever brought up. Smart trade proposals do exist – Rondo isn’t exactly Anthony Davis-level invincible — but they’re few and far between. Only a tiny number of teams: 1) have the need for a franchise point guard, and 2) have the necessary assets to pry him away. It’s all so much easier said than done.

Part of this is on Celtics general manager Danny Ainge, who drives a hard bargain and isn’t going to trade Rondo just because a lot of people who know less about NBA basketball than he does are yelling it on the radio, and part of this is on the constantly shifting and unpredictable marketplace that Rondo is set to enter next summer, when the Celtics, if they so choose, have the opportunity to pay him more money than any other team in the league.

I’m of the dwindling yet tolerable (I hope) belief that Boston should and will keep Rondo — mostly because he’s extremely good at his job and currently undervalued — and most who’ve watched Boston’s point guard blossom over the years agree that trading him would be seminal in an unpredictable way. It could be great for the Celtics, and it could also be a disaster. (According to the league’s history, losing a perennial All-Star in his prime doesn’t usually work out so well, though.)

  • Thomas Graham

    they can’t rest without fucking with rondo these writers are a trip

  • hax

    Anyone notice the Pacers have a pretty average roster?
    Hill & Stuckey back court is below average.
    West is past his prime once the season starts, no longer an all-star caliber player(34 years old).
    George is an all-star.
    Hibbert is a fringe all-star, inconsistent and can’t guard stretch 5′s.
    Their bench is Scola & inconsistent streaky shooters(Watson, Miles).

  • Thomas Graham

    at this point i think it would be real stupid for boston to let rondo go he just came back from a serious injury this will be his first season back fully healthy to trade him and let him explode for another team would be heart breaking face it we all know what rondo can do when healthy plus a young team like this need good leadership on the floor a proven champion

  • dasein

    Those so-called smart trade proposals referenced were obviously concocted by a Boston fanboy. Most of them were simply bad deals for the other team. But the fact it’s so hard to fill an article with sensible options does demonstrate that the number of potential deals out there is small.

    Other than that, I feel like we’ve beaten this horse into the ground at this point.

  • hax

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k8rqdby

    Yay for crackpot trade machine proposals.
    Knicks & Nuggets 2018 1st rounders to the Celtics of course.

    • dontevertreadonme

      rondo’s gonna be rondo. he’s going for a max contract without a doubt. celts aren’t gonna pay it as he’s really not worth it. if gordon hayward gets max money, rondo’s definitely going to be getting paid.

      • dasein

        Gotta remember that not all “max contracts” are created equal. Hayward, was coming of his rookie deal so the max for him is about 15M. If you could lock Rondo up for that there would be no problem. The problem is, the veterans max is 20M+. But you’re right that Rondo isn’t worth the type of money that LeBron, Bosh and Melo just got.

        • Michelle Trybulec

          Seriously? You think more of Bosh than Rondo? Seriously?!?!?

          • dasein

            Nope, that’s not what I said. I said rondo isn’t worth the contract bosh just got. Bosh isn’t worth that contract either.

          • Michelle Trybulec

            Sounds like some contracts being made right now that appear bloated will look like bargains when the television rights deal comes up for renewal in two years or so and the salary cap goes up as well. No doubt the Captain is well aware of this.

    • Coach A. Johnson

      5yrs/60mil is comparable to what he gets right now…..12mil per yr. He wants a raise. I still dont think he said max, but he wont get 5yrs/100mil, I think even he knows that. He could get 5yrs/80mil…..about 16mil, then make that a rising contract, or start higher at 18 and make it a decreasing contract. Front load that deal.

  • hax

    So since there is no news, I predicted the regular season rankings.
    Notable crazyness.

    - Wizards #1 seed in the East.
    - Pacers miss the playoffs.
    - Pelicans make the playoffs.

    • dasein

      Wiz finishing 1 might be a stretch, but i could see them with home court in the first round for sure. Pelies in the playoffs is a possibility too if they can stay healthy. Who the hell knows with the Pacers, but the east is still the east so they’d have to really fall off the cliff (possible).

      12 for the C’s sounds about right.

  • Joe

    Let’s resign Jordan Crawford and add to our pool of guards. We can run line ups 6’6 and under…
    But seriously. Wouldn’t mind resigning him

    • hax

      There are a few free agents who we could probably get for the minimum this year that could contribute or raise their value to be traded at the deadline, but we don’t have any room left. :(
      Even if we releases Bogans-Babb-Johnson, the 15 man roster is still there.

  • skeeds

    It’s funny how we’re still pondering whether we should trade Rondo or renew him or whatever. The Celtics have lost control of the situation by now. Our two options right now is to give him the contract he wants or trade for whatever we can get in return. And that’s about it.

    Even the Love situation, where the stakes are much much higher, is to an extent out of the Wolves hands. Yes, they make high demands now, but wait till January comes and they have no deal and Love (naturally) refuses to do a sign&trade with anyone. Then let’s see if they still demand Wiggins or Thompson to agree.

    With any player entering free agency the only way his team can have the upper hand is by assuring him of him being a priority, of being willing to meet his ambitions and expectations and being straightforward with him. Basically giving him a reason to stay. The C’s pretty much struck out on all of those with Rondo. So all they can do is get what they can get from a situation in which they have little leverage.

    • hax

      Player A: 11.7 PPG – 9.8 APG – 33 MPG – 28 years old by the start of the season – $12,909,090 salary next season,

      Player B: 8.0 PPG – 8.8 APG – 29 MPG – 23 years old by the start of the season – $915,243 salary next season.

      A: Rajon Rondo
      B: Kendall Marshall

      • skeeds

        I’m not debating whether he’s worth a max contract or not. I’m just stating what he wants compared to what Boston is willing to give him both in terms of stability and money.
        My opinion is that he’s not worth big money on a bad team. He can’t really do much with sub-par talent around him. If I was the Rockets though, for example? 100%. Rondo with a competent big man and legit shooters at his flanks is the best pg in the league (circa 2010-2012). Rondo with no center or pure shooter on the roster? pedestrian.

      • Joe

        Idk thought because the defense rondo brings compared to Marshell is immeasurable. I would rather work with smart.

  • hax

    If Rondo’s jump shot improves, and his speed is back, I’d like to see him be more aggressive as a scorer. He’s the all-star who wants big money, he needs to do it all.
    Blaze by defenders, get to the rim. They back off? Pull up for the jumper and make them pay. Make the defense start to focus on you, then find teammates for easy buckets.

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