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76 Boston Celtics
Jeff Green, PF 44 MIN | 8-17 FG | 3-4 FT | 9 REB | 4 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 5 TO | 21 PTS | -9
Normally, I would be singing Jeff Green’s praises to the highest of heavens for a stat line like this. 21 points, 9 boards, and 4 assists? Are you kidding me? Green also took 17 field goal attempts, which is no small feat for a guy who tends to disappear. Sometimes, however, his aggressive moves were mistimed and led to turnovers. And normally, a stat line like this would come in a complimentary role with Pierce and Garnett following suit. As you all know, that did not happen tonight.
Paul Pierce, SF 41 MIN | 6-15 FG | 5-6 FT | 4 REB | 5 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 5 TO | 17 PTS | -11
By Paul Pierce’s standards, he was absolutely atrocious tonight. He could not hold on to the ball and it didn’t even require a double team. Last year, Iman Shumpert wasn’t good enough to carry Pierce’s luggage to the next round. This year, Shump is licking his chops every time he sees Pierce try to setup shop with his back to the basket. And Shumpert isn’t even Pierce’s biggest bogeyman. That honor belongs to Raymond Felton. A guy who pokes and picks the ball away from Pierce, despite giving up five inches.
Kevin Garnett, C 34 MIN | 5-13 FG | 2-2 FT | 17 REB | 2 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 12 PTS | -8
Garnett looked like a player who desperately didn’t want his season to end on Sunday. If it were up to him, the Celtics would have ended tonight halfway towards protecting homecourt. Instead, prolonging the season by a game (or two??) is the best this beast can hope for.
Avery Bradley, PG 33 MIN | 1-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 2 PTS | -9
Doc Rivers inserted Jason Terry into the starting lineup — presumably in order to shake up the offense. Instead of benching a guard, Rivers benched the guy that had the most success defending Carmelo Anthony.
Jason Terry, SG 35 MIN | 4-9 FG | 3-4 FT | 1 REB | 2 AST | 2 STL | 0 BLK | 3 TO | 14 PTS | -12
Terry woke up and found his stroke: a prospect that wasn’t entirely unpredictable given his home-and-away splits. He was one of the few Celtics that played with any grit tonight, which was really evident when he took that elbow from JR Smith. Despite feigning attempts to confront Smith on the court, he still stood in and knocked down two free throws after taking one — literally — on the chin.
Brandon Bass, PF 23 MIN | 1-5 FG | 1-2 FT | 7 REB | 1 AST | 0 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 3 PTS | -10
Bass was moved to the bench tonight to presumably give the reserves a proven effective player. Instead, the Celtics got the worst performance from Bass yet. Coincidence?
Jordan Crawford, SG 13 MIN | 2-5 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 1 TO | 5 PTS | -2
Before the playoffs started, I was convinced that Jordan Crawford would win one playoff game for Celtics. I know now that he will not get that chance.
Courtney Lee, SG 11 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 0 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 2 PTS | -3
Has there ever been a moment where a starter moves to little-used bench player as severe as Courtney Lee’s 2012-2013 season?
Terrence Williams, SG 6 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 0 PTS | -6
Williams’ performance tonight reads like a reddit/imgur meme:
Finally Got Some Playing Time

1 Rebound
Doc Rivers
Doc Rivers “shook things up” which led to the same poor offensive execution they saw in the first two games. This mostly involves Pierce attempting to post up at the elbow which led to either a turnover or a less-than-optimal shot. Rivers is searching for so many answers, BRobb might even get a chance to suit up.
  • WTF

    Cs fans can take solace in seeing that Lakers faired the same despite all the star powers! D'Antoni is worse than Doc and Jim Buss is a bonehead hiring him instead of Phil.


      Let's not compare the Lakers situation with ours, they have been hit with the injury bug much worse than us. Fact is, both our teams are on the verge of being swept. Rather worry about the Celtics than what is going on in Lakerland, but both of these franchises are going to be in rebuilding more.

      Unfortunately, Celtics fans embrace Doc like he is some sort of coaching genius and the 2nd coming of Red, while in reality he subpar coach that has rode the tails of the Big 3 and the defensive playbook of Thibs. The fans and Danny has embraced Doc so much, they can't get the glitter and gold out of their eyes to see that there has to be a coaching change. Doc can be a assistant for the motivational speeches, but he is sorely lacking in player development skills and X n Os. We have young players on the bench that need to be integrated and developed, which Doc has historically been known NOT to do.

      Please fans, wake up! I have been telling you guys the truth about Doc, but it is always returned with hostility. Now it is more apparent than ever and more and more people are waking up.

      • eyeball

        I agree!

      • WTF


    • GymRat

      I think it's completely fair to compare the two as both teams were viable championship contenders at the same time and are now struggling with how to move forward.

      The Lakers injuries are hardly worse than ours. While they have had sporadic missed games from key players throughout the season, none save for Kobe have been lost to a season ending injury, and that happened with the regular season nearly entirely over. We lost 3 players to season ending injury and that was barely halfway through the season. Their recent rash of injuries are really after the fact. Even at fulll health no way they would win more than a game or two against San Antonio. Kobe would have made it competitve and exciting, but that's about it.

      And unlike the C's who most people wrote off before the season even started…the Lakers were actually considered favorites by many to play in the NBA finals. They just sucked it up and underperformed.

      I agree D'Antoni is far worse than Doc and Jim Buss really blew it hiring him.

      • elroz

        Doc is dealing with a loss of Rondo, and then of Barbosa and Sullinger. You don't just plug in new guys in their place – there are no new guys to replace these players – wake up. You cannot put in Bradley for Rondo, Wilcox for Sully, and Crawford for Barbosa. It will not work.

        The Lakers spent way more money than the Celtics and they still have one of the best players in DWH and a very good, all-star PF in Gasol…. and who cares about the Lakers right now?

        • GymRat

          I'm guessing you probably meant to reply to MSTRKRFT…as we seem to agree and I am indeed awake to the fact Rondo is irreplacable.

  • tbunny

    A C- for Doc is extremely generous. This team looked like it was coming apart offensively. The Knicks knew exactly what every play was. If they played this game on the road they would have lost 90-60. The Pierce ISOs were ridicuous. I don't think I saw KG take a shot from the key area once. That's where he likes it! I'm not saying Doc is terrible or needs to be fired or anything like that. But last night was an F for him.

    I'm not surprised to see the Celtics losing this series. They were bad for six weeks before the playoffs. But I am surprised to see a team that looks totally unprepared and can't put anything together on offense. They don't even look like a playoff team! New York is doing nothing special except having their ball hogs Melo and Smith score at will. Milwaukee looks better than them even though Miami is just toying with them.

  • tbunny

    Also, KG is not an A-. KG is an A+. KG had 17 rebounds!!! KG came to play when everybody else looked scared or defeated.

  • Flagrant2

    Are you saying Milwaukee looks better than the Knicks or the Celtics?

    I don't think either is true, but they definitely don't look better than the Knicks, who are playing solidly on both ends of the floor.

    Also, the whole ball-hog narrative is a bit goofy. At this point Melo's supposed unwillingness to pass is better than Pierce giving the ball to the opposing team on 1/3 of his possessions.

    KG was an A+ yes, but this series is over.

    • tbunny

      Milwaukee looks better than Boston. At least Milwaukee has an offense.

  • IBleedGreen

    Celtics have not scored more than 80 points in any games, that has to be some playoff records of some sort. Very sad.

  • IBleedGreen

    Avery Bradley is an absolute joke to the NBA. How can someone his skill level can play in the NBA? He needs to be demoted to the D-league and he will still suck.

  • NZNICK33

    Can we not at least give the first post-Rondo line-up another shot? It seems they had the most success and this big line-up is not panning out. Start KG, Bass, Pierce, Lee & Bradley, run the spread offense and bring Green, Terry, Crawford, Williams & Wilcox/Randolph off the bench. I know that 8 or 9 man rotations are the norm in the playoffs but KG & PP are too old for this shit.

    • elroz

      well, they changed that line-up back and forth… yes, they should have stayed with Bradley, Lee, KG, PP, Bass…just stayed with that…but no, they started to shake things up and now Lee and Bass have no clue.

  • Jim

    Please Danny Ainge do not try and squeeze one more year out of Pierce and Garnett. Do not start next season with one point guard on the roster . Do try and hire a defensive coach like Lawrence Frank and please lets get someone on the team who can score. Maybe it is time to bring Big Al back?

    • elroz

      Do you not see that KG is playing well? That KG can give quality 24 min a game next year? It's the young guys like Bradley, Lee, Bass, that are struggling. Yes, PP is struggling too, but he is asked to be the PG – which he is not – it is not all about age. I cannot believe the people that see Boston playing only 2 veterans key minutes (Terry doesn't count) and all the young players round them and then say "they are old" – Green, Bass, Bradley, Lee, Crawford are not old. KG has averaged a double-double this series. KG can play at a high level for 24 mpg next season… putting in a young bad player in his place is not going to make anything.

      They need to packaged Terry and Crawford to either move up in the draft or take these two and add their 16th pick and trade for another quality player.

    • GymRat

      I think it's pretty much assured after a showing this historically poor the team will be remarkably different next season. Sadly KG will likely retire, and PP (if he doesn't retire) will play for a contender as a reserve.

  • tbunny

    I agree 100% That's what they should have done starting with game 2. Doc said he was playing Crawford 25 but then he played Jason Terry 35 minutes!!! Most of them with Pierce and Garnett! And Crawford played 15 as a 2. Crawford should be bringing it up! Not playing 2! I'm not saying it's a great strategy necessarily. It's Jordan Crawford. But at this point your only hope is that he can step up. Bradley can't distribute. The jig is up with Paul isos. He doesn't have it. Terry hasn't had five minutes of solid point guard play this season. The only hope to get value out of Terry is to run him with Crawford (and it seems like that actually worked a little).

    To me it's like Doc's big strategic move was to start Terry. I mean, really?! That's your move, to start Terry? I literally couldn't believe it when I saw his face on the starting line up. And Terry is going to be 1? And we wonder why Pierce was so out of sorts that balls were bouncing off his hands.

  • Aidan

    Didn't Humphries go from starter to completely out of the rotation a lot quicker than Lee this year?

    • GymRat

      He did. He's been out for the past two months.

  • I_Love_Green

    Well this is a new spot for us. I gotta say I would have NEVER expected a Doc-KG-Pierce team to just lay down like this. Down 3-0 and an absolutely lifeless effort in the most important game of the year? And at home no less.

    We'll see how game 4 goes, but even if we win its not going past 5 games. There's just no toughness to this team, no Celtic Pride, and no real desire. But worst of all, not much talent. The team just flat out isn't good enough.

    • GymRat

      Well it's not too shocking when you consider that this team was completely retooled and slapped together. Only PP, KG, and Bass exist from the team that overperformed and nearly made the NBA finals last year (remember AB, Green and Wilcox were injured). Those 3 (who are all playing hard – if not well) have a supporting cast of CBA players or outcasts from other teams with no real experience of playing at a high level, or they just don't have much fight in them (Green, AB, Terry and Wilcox).

      As much as people on here bag on Rondo, he's the toughest guy on the team and his fight always set the tone. I mean the guy played with a dislocated arm and a torn ACL and was ready to fight Humphries. He's a beast. Without Rondo only KG and PP has the fire. Nobody wants to admit it, but fire isn't enough. When your game goes – it goes. Every great heavyweight fighter gets knocked out their last fight. The fire keeps you coming back to the ring thinking you have one more big fight in you…but then one day, the punches just aren't there and the other guy is faster and hits harder.

      Welcome to that day.

  • Stephen

    The C's are making thr Knicks look like some sort of defensive jugernaut in this series which they are not. I can honestly say that right now I am embarrased to be a Celtics fan. Red is rolling over in his grave, Getting swept by the Knicks of all people. Unbelieveable !!!!!!!

  • Tony Knicks

    Man that wicked awesome Baaaahstan crowd sure shut down the Knicks.


    Your friend,

    • elroz

      hey tony the c-sucker and a son of a c-sucker: the last time NYK won a playoff series was what 2001? and they won a ring in early 70s?

      • check12check

        can we ban this jackass' IP addy or something?

  • ghoulbuns

    Fuck that. That saddens me immensely. This is not how KG should see his end. Trading Paul is not how he deserves to be rewarded. Bring back Rondo, Sully, Barbosa…give them a chance to gel as a team. It takes time to gel. I believe in the heart of this team. I acknowledge this year as a failure, but I believe in this team. Thats what a fan is. The lifeblood of the team. Dont believe me? Ask the pistons how disheartening it is to play for an empty arena. I refuse to quit. I do not look forward to an NBA without KG or Pierce. These are living legends. And neither should you.

  • swissflix

    this feels like 1993 again. i see Zo and grandma everyhwere.

  • C's fan in LA

    The C's mistake was letting go of Nate robinson!!! and why did dooling not play for Boston but goes to Memphis??

    Nate Robinson (23 points in the 4th quarter against Deron Williams) outscores the WHOLE celtic Team….