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Game 29: Celtics (14-14) @ Warriors (20-10) Open Thread

 

Boston at Golden State
10:30 P.M. ET
Oracle Arena
CSNNE

Offensive Efficiency:
Boston: 102.9 points/100 possessions (22nd)
Golden State: 106.6 points/100 possessions (11th)

Defensive Efficiency:
Boston: 103.9 points allowed/100 possessions (10th)
Golden State:104.4 points allowed/100 possessions (13th)

Probable Warriors Starters: 
Stephen Curry (PG), Klay Thompson (SG),Harrison Barnes (SF), David Lee (PF), and Festus Ezeli (C)

View From The Opposing Bench: Warriors World

THUMBNAIL

First things first, in a bit of breaking news, Rajon Rondo will NOT play tonight against the Warriors, as Celtics PR has announced he is out with a right hip/quad injury. There is no further information on that for the moment, but we will keep you posted at CelticsHub for any further developments.

Without the team’s All-Star point guard, the Celtics face quite the uphill task this evening against the upstart Warriors, who sport one of the best backcourts in the league with Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson and an underrated Jarrett Jack coming off the bench to play major minutes. 

Leandro Barbosa is also still not with the team, (although he should be rejoining them soon) meaning the Celtics are down to two active guards tonight with Courtney Lee and Jason Terry. This is pretty brutal timing personnel-wise for the C’s to defend such a speedy Warrior group, but look for both guys to see at least 30-35 minutes tonight, and perhaps more. Paul Pierce, Jeff Green and perhaps Kris Joseph could see some minutes at the two in a pinch, but Thompson will be a tough mismatch for any of those guys. The C’s are certainly capable of some effective big lineups, but the athletic Warriors aren’t the team you want to go big against most nights.

Fresh off a dismal effort against the high-octane Los Angeles Clippers, the C’s face off with another team that likes to push the pace (6th in league) tonight in the Golden State Warriors. There isn’t as much talent in Oakland as there is in LA, but there are still a variety of studs to deal with for Boston tonight, starting with David Lee who is playing the best basketball of his career. KG will have to try to keep the former Knick under control on the glass, while the C’s need Brandon Bass and Jared Sullinger to have strong nights on the offensive end and the glass in order to keep pace with Golden State.

PREDICTION
Not enough offense for Boston and too much firepower in the backcourt for GSW.

Warriors 102, Celtics 95

  • elroz

    For those that say "they need to get Jeff Green more involved" : in 7 minutes he is 0-4… a lot of shot for 7 minutes…and no points.

  • elroz

    8 minutes 0-5 from the filed… Jeff Green is getting involved for sure.

  • elroz

    too bad Pierce is also 0-5….. ugh

    • Phil

      I'm starting to think Pierce may be drunk… I mean, there's missing shots, then there's shooting two airballs in a row followed by two shots that clank off the bottom corner of the iron.

      Even I can hit back rim or backboard once in four tries!

      • elroz

        yeah..and he took 20 shots.. KG only took 6! Terry, Pierce, Green – took many more shots than KG..and they all stunk!

  • elroz

    Green and Pierce are combined 0-11…. wow. GSW must have some historic defense..oh, wait, no they don't.

  • Phil

    If you look up 'stepping up in a teammates absence' in the dictionary, you won't find anyone from the Celtics tonight. Pierce, Green and Terry are all throwing up stinkers, and even KG hasn't been good. On a day when you need people to step up with Rondo out, they're doing the opposite.

    On the bright side, Sullinger looks like he's starting to put it all together out there; he's playing really well. That's not enough to accomplish anything by itself though.

    Looking like another depressing game… guess I'll head over to my Avery shrine.

  • Danny

    Hate to say it cuz I’ve been a fan of this team forever but there’s no quick fix for this. Sad realization is this is just a bad team. They insist on taking stupid 18-20 foot jumpers every possession and bricking them. They don’t rebound they turn it over way too much. Their interior and 3 point defense is horrible. It’s just not even close to Celtic basketball I’ve been accustomed to the last five years. This is almost worse than those lean years in the early to mid 2000s because at least those teams had the excuse of being young. The lack of effort and dumb basketball mistakes this supposedly veteran displays is frustrating beyond belief. Hopefully they can turn it around here in the second half but I doubt it. Two blowout losses in Cali seems like the reality. Sad.

    • The Cardinal

      True dat. After the blowout losses in Texas, Detroit, etc… they really are a bottom 3rd team so far.

    • Phil

      It's actually very close to the Celtics basketball we've become accustomed to over the last five years. They started off great in 08, have they been a good team before February in any other year?

      It's frustrating with what appears to be a lack of effort and caring, but to say that this team is horribly off it's projected pace is just wrong. They always look worse early rather than late, and they should lose without Rondo and Bradley; that's they're best and third best player.

      Two blowouts on the road against west coast teams that are on fire while missing your starting backcourt is hardly a reflection of the reality.

      • The Cardinal

        This year is different in two big ways: 1) an unacceptable number of losses have been blowouts and 2) the competition has gotten better while the jury is still out on the C's.

        • Phil

          I won't claim to know how many of the losses last year were blowouts, but I do think that team is getting romanticized either way. They were either 27-27 or 28-28. A handful of blowouts or not, that's worse than where the team is now, especially when you factor in how bare that team's roster was.

          I don't necessarily see that the competition has gotten that much better either. We probably need an injury to beat the Heat, but we did last year too. The Knicks are better, but the Bulls are worse. Everyone else in the East is a complete jumble. Even assuming the Hawks stay in third, who's fourth best in the East? Milwaukee? The Celtics could very easily end up the fourth best team in the conference.

          • elroz

            with Green and Terry on the team, they really have no fight in them… just a waste of space and money.

          • Phil

            Green I'll agree with, 'section deleted as I'm not talking about Green for stress reasons', but I'm not willing to write Terry off as having no fight. He's had a long career of playing hard and caring, and that involves playoff runs and championships.

            He and Pierce both sucked, but I think it's age related for both; they can't bring it every night. I don't think either lack fight. Terry's been the most disappointing player this year, but I have hope for him. Unlike some other players that will still be here in four years…

  • someguyinsac

    Nice to see that Sullinger came to play, it's the only bright spot of the night so far.

  • Danny

    Also nothing against the guy personally the whole team is terrible tonight but I’m getting real tired of watching Jason terry rebuild the Great Wall out there with his bricks. How many 1/12 1/15 2/11 nights from him to we need to watch before we realize he just doesn’t have it anymore. No wonder Dallas didnt want him back.

  • Phil

    I'm starting to think the team would be better off just playing Lee and Sullinger 2 on 5…

  • Danny

    @phil it’s not even they’re record that’s disappointing its how there losing. Like you said there seems to be a serious lack of effort coupled with some fundamental flaws that may be to big to overcome. I’ve watched every single game this season and from what I’ve seen the team has some real possibly fatal flaws. They just might pull it together but at this point I’m not so sure. I don’t think it’s a matter of playing into shape like last year or getting healthy for a playoff run like in ’10. This team seems to be heavily reliant on jumpshooting that just doesn’t seem to be there as in years past and the defense has on the surface gotten much worse. The interior and 3 point defense two of their main strengths in the past have become weaknesses. Bradley will most certainly help but I’m not holding my breath for a messiah.

    • Phil

      They've always been a jump shooting team during the KG era though. The difference this year is that on the nights when Pierce and Terry both don't have it (which have been way too common so far,) not only do they lack the necessary 3 pt shooting, they also play two volume shooters who build brick houses in an otherwise efficient offensive system. If Pierce and Terry are both this inconsistent all year, they'll have problems. It's a question mark, but I think we can also agree that Terry needs out of the starting lineup as soon as possible.

      I probably come across a little fanboyish harking back to Bradley on everything, but the numbers are all there from last year. They were a great team with Rondo/Bradley/Pierce/Bass/KG. Those players are all still on the roster, and KG and Pierce haven't fallen off 'that' much. I don't see why they can't attain the same late season performance from last year once they have their team together. On the flip side, they were a .500 team last year before that lineup started playing major minutes. They look bad right now, but I don't see why a performance like tonight (and they're looking a little better now,) would mean much for the team in February.

  • Danny

    Yes we are definitely in agreement that terry needs to get out of the starting 5 before he rebuilds the Great Wall. I’m with you hopefully that starting 5 will work magic again. I’m of the belief that it all starts with defense which will most certainly drastically improve with Bradley back. I just hope some of those other issues work themselves out. Any championship team needs consistency and I feel we have too much streak shooting on this team. But as the defense improves so to will the offense.

    As a side note I’m not a huge blame the ref guy even though I’m well aware of how awful nba officiating is but I will say this. The offensive fouls kill me. Does it seem like to anyone else that we are the only team that ever gets that shit called on them. I mean literally we are good for like 3-5 illegal screens or off the ball offensive fouls a game. I almost never see that kind of stuff get called on any other team. Granted I don’t watch any other team nearly as much but still.

  • Danny

    Another pathetic 10 point fourth quarter as of two minutes left. That’s the other issue I forget to mention. We have been horrible in the fourth quarter of way to many games. I don’t have the stats on hand but way too many times have we fallen apart in the fourth and dropped 15, 12, 10 point 4th quarter eggs. You can’t expect to win anything when you play your worst in the most important quarter.

  • james patrick

    The Celtics blown out by the Clippers and Warriors. Are we sure the Mayan's didn't screw things up in some way? lol

  • elroz

    Jeff Green is just an obviously BAD basketball player…JET is one dimensional – and if his one dimension is missing – more often than not – he is useless.

    Pierce has to play smarter and move the ball around – any bench warmer in the NBA can take long jumpers, that's not skill.

    • james patrick

      And why did we sign Green to that large contract? We won't be able to dump him because of that contract.

  • Danny

    On the bright side at least Miami got beat down too.

  • CelticsBIG3

    Just as Sully starts to play really well lately, I brace my self for his eminent trade. Its coming and the victims of it will be Bradley (who's stock is high because he hasn't returned and put up stinker games yet) and Sully who is probably our best rebounder easily. Does anyone else think it's time Doc starts playing the bench more? Pierce is playing himself into a ditch trying to score like he did 10 years ago….

    • Phil

      If we're looking for bright sides, this was a great trade bait game. Lee and Sullinger both played very well. Add in Fab destroying the DLeague, and Ainge has to be just cursing that he can't trade for Jeff Green again!

      …I mean, Ainge has to be thinking that some team will bite and send out a reasonably good package.

  • someguyinsac

    Oh Boy! I'm afraid of what the outcome of the one game a year I get to go to see them play will be tomorrow, can only hope it's not like the one last year. o_O

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