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Boston Celtics 89 Final

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100 Chicago Bulls
Kevin Garnett, PF 22 MIN | 5-10 FG | 0-0 FT | 8 REB | 0 AST | 10 PTS | -7
Kevin Garnett played 22 minutes tonight and he looked tired for about 13 of them. He couldn’t post any of the Bulls’ front court players and settled for jumpers a step in from the three point line. The closest shot he took was a three foot jumper. No dunks, no layups, no alley oops. It’s not surprising that in a game where KG took all jumpers, he didn’t get to the line.
Brandon Bass, PF 25 MIN | 3-9 FG | 1-1 FT | 8 REB | 0 AST | 7 PTS | +2
I would like to see Bass have this exact same line but take at least three fewer shots. If he could do that, he’s earned an A-.
Paul Pierce, SF 27 MIN | 6-10 FG | 2-4 FT | 3 REB | 4 AST | 16 PTS | -4
Pierce seemed to have his shot cooking tonight but nothing else. This includes his decision making. Instead of making himself a part of the offense, he seemed all too happy to try to make a one-on-one move on a very good defender (Luol Deng). It’s not all Pierce’s fault. Chicago is a very good defensive team and no one on the Celtics executed the offense well.
Rajon Rondo, PG 28 MIN | 9-18 FG | 6-8 FT | 2 REB | 8 AST | 26 PTS | 0
Rondo single-handedly tried to keep the Celtics in the game. With no one giving him any options on offense, he attacked the basket, fought for extra chance points, and was aggressive with his jumper. I meant that last one in a good way. The Celtics needed him to take jump shots because they were there and hardly there for anyone else.
Courtney Lee, SG 17 MIN | 7-11 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 14 PTS | 0
On first look at his stat line, one would think that the Celtics squandered a good offensive performance from Lee. Then the person who watched the game would talk about how many times Marco Bellinelli effortlessly drove by him to within three feet of the tin.
Jared Sullinger, PF 10 MIN | 0-6 FG | 1-2 FT | 3 REB | 1 AST | 1 PTS | -12
His efficiency and effectiveness goes WAY up when the Celtics are playing well. When the Celtics played like they did tonight, you get what you see from Sullinger.
Jeff Green, PF 10 MIN | 1-6 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 3 PTS | -9
One of the first defensive principles a basketball player learns is to keep himself between his man and the basket. ughh…First it was getting himself acclimated to playing post heart surgery. Then it was trying to be aggressive and get himself hyped. When are we allowed to say that Green is not a good basketball player?
Chris Wilcox, PF 13 MIN | 2-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 4 PTS | -2
Wilcox couldn’t stay on the floor because he couldn’t defend the pick-and-roll. He does that and the game may look slightly different.
Jason Collins, C 3 MIN | 0-0 FG | 0-0 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 0 PTS | -3
His three minutes signified Rivers’ raising the white flag.
Jason Terry, SG 22 MIN | 1-2 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 2 AST | 2 PTS | -14
I’m a firm believer that his offense will come around. However, in order for that to happen, he needs shots. There was a moment where Rondo and Wilcox ran two successive pick-and-rolls on the same possession and Wilcox and Rondo both popped twice. Two players who are not primary shooters popping on pick-and-rolls while Terry was off in a corner somewhere.
Leandro Barbosa, SG 6 MIN | 1-6 FG | 4-4 FT | 1 REB | 3 AST | 6 PTS | -6
Barbosa didn’t have a great shooting night and got caught over-helping on defense. It’s hard to pick on the Celtics third guard off the bench so it is what it is.
  • legendlynch

    I am getting tired of doc not playing the guys that should get more time, he either needs to start green and move bass to the bench, I like bass an all but the guy is not cutting it for me we need a guy that can play with rondo more.

    • CelticsBIG3

      I'm sorry man, but Jeff Green is NOT that guy. You think we're bad now? Put Green in the starting 5.

      • legendlynch

        I dont think we are a bad team but bass should not be starting man we need more offence in the starting line up thats why I say green he needs more time with the starters to get going and one thing he does better that green is that he goes to the basket, also I wouldn't mind sullinger either we need guys who go to the paint and and we need our players to get rebounds and no one on the celtics except for rondo and sullinger knows how to get a rebound

        • elroz

          The only reason I would put Green in as a starter is to finally settle the issue – sink or swim. But he is, in any case, not the guy who can help you when he is not scoring – no defense and no rebounding. Danny and Doc made this 2012-2013 team together – I wonder what were their assumption and what they were thinking. If Doc and Rondo cannot coach a good offense out of Terry, there is something wrong with them, NOT Terry. Danny should consider cleaning house a little – Bass, Wilcox, Barbosa for Gortat or J.J Hickson or Jefferson (if available of course): fewer guys top coach but more rebounding. I'd love to put Green on that list, but Danny went ahead and gave him that contract. Right now, I'm not kidding: I'm ready to give Kris Joseph some playing time.

  • CelticsBIG3

    "When are we allowed to say that Green is not a good basketball player?" About now is fine with me. This guy is truly F'N terrible. Roddy White was BEYOND right when he posted on Twitter last week how "soft and terrible" Jeff Green is. Can't defend, can't score, can't rebound, and worst of all; CAN'T be traded (NO ONE will take his behemoth contract). I'd hate to see the sheer millions thrown away by Celtic brass in the last few years on players that are total garbage. $9,000,000 a year to play 10 minutes and totally suck? Where do I sign up?

    • kg215

      +1 TOTALLY AGREE. People have been defending Jeff Green and making excuses for him, I'm sick of it. Jeff Green was a piss poor defender and rebounder on the Thunder and that continues here in Boston. They were significantly better on both ends of the court when Jeff Green sat in OKC. Those should have been red flags, but no we had to trade for an athletic guy who has never figured it out and then pay him 9 million a year post heart surgery while bidding against no one. I'm sure there were other teams that wanted Green, but not for 9 million after surgery. And if they were willing to go that far (can only think of a couple GMs stupid enough to even consider it), we could have let them take him.

  • Phil

    Note to Brendan; the current excuse for Jeff Green is that he needs to start. You can't just ask a player to be consistently effective coming off the bench! /sarcasm.

    If I'm reading my Jeff Green apologist chart correctly, that's slated to be the excuse for a couple months until Pierce misses a few games with a minor injury. The excuse after that will be that there's too much negativity surrounding him.

    Disappointing game again though. The team still looks to be figuring things out, but I'm having a hard time shaking the feeling that they're just not as good as we all expected. Still hoping Bradley's return fixes a lot, but there are so many holes. I want to be a homer, Celtics. Give me a reason to believe already!

    • kg215

      Haha good call on the excuses in reserve. The most hilarious defense I've heard of on Jeff Green came from a different blog, where an individual said in a few hours of play at the small forward position when Jeff Green was here, he had an above average defensive rating. Apparently Jeff Green was going to be a lockdown defender if he played the small forward. Lol well that didn't work out, but the excuse still cracks me up.

  • High Rollers

    A lot of things turn a game, but this one was lost in the last 2:45 of the first quarter. I've decided to just ignore the momentum of losing and go on a game by game, quarter by quarter basis.

  • Seasonticketholder

    We need a big man. Point blank. A real 5. KG goes back to a 4. Taking soooo much beating off him. Collins can plug in realistic minutes, along with bass behind a real 5. A 26 minute center at the min. Ainge needs to pull the trigger on something. As for Green, hes got the rest of THIS season to show us why he shouldnt be amnastied. KG is a bandaide center. He was never a solution to our center shortage.

    • Phil

      Green can't be amnestied, the player has to have been on that team with that contract at the time the collective bargaining agreement was signed. He's here for four years, and the only way out will likely be if the Celtics give something up to get another team to take him. The most comparable deal recently is the Ben Gordon and a 1st/Corey Magette swap. The Pistons gave up a 1st round pick to get out of one extra year at ~12m. Then again, if Ainge gets fired here and hired somewhere else, I'm sure his new team will give up something great for him.

      I wish I could remember the date I set as the over/under for first time I would have to mention that Green couldn't be amnestied. I feel like we hit the over though. I didn't expect to get out of the month.

  • emg

    I believe that Jeff Green will be a much stronger player by the end of the season. He is not soft when he knows what he's doing. For example, if you watch the dunk a few weeks ago against Dallas when he chased Rondo down the court to finish the play, he shoves Carter to be in position. I'm not talking about his athleticism, I'm talking about him pushing and shoving. The problem with Green – and also a result of the lost year – is he is overwhelmed. Probably he's never had good coaching in his life and is timid in the face of the new complexities of a real role on a real team; playing backup to the wiz kids at OKC didn't count.
    Keep in mind Avery Bradley who was useless and incompetent aside from being good at defense. and suddenly Bradley figured out how to be open for the 3. and then he figured out how to cut to the basket a few weeks later. things fell into place for him and suddenly he was better than Ray Allen. Jeff Green can be the same way. He may not be good enough to start but I'm confident he'll be much stronger by the playoffs.

    • kg215

      Huh bad coaching, that is a new excuse for Jeff. Don't compare Jeff to Avery, Jeff was drafted on talent as a high lottery pick and got tons of minutes in OKC regardless of how poorly he played, then we traded for him again based on talent and nothing else. Avery who is as intense and focused as any young player we have in the NBA had to work his ass off to prove that he belonged on this team, and then prove to Doc that he deserved to be a starter and get good minutes.

  • Mark

    I said it before. Ainge wildly miscalculated when he shaped the team to be small ball dominate to compete with Miami. Miami can go small ball effectively because they have the best player in the league in Lebron and two top five players at their positions in Wade and Bosh. The Celtics have one top five player at his position and that is Rondo. The rest of the elite teams are big and the C’s get murdered. Ainge hasn’t drafted well in years and his trades/FA signings are suspect at best.

    Last years run was fools gold and Ainge got fooled. This team better hit the lottery if a deep run is out of the question. And I belive it is. But Ainge will probably make a trade that hurts the long term just to grab that 8th seed.

    • Phil

      I hadn't really thought about that last thing you mentioned, but it does seem scarily plausible. I can totally see a scenario where the Cs flip there first rounder in a last ditch run at a championship. Lee and a 1st for Robin Lopez was a trade brought up in an ESPN article a couple weeks back that would fit your criteria pretty well.

    • CG12

      While it is certainly possible that last year's run was fool's gold, the fact that the C's have had huge surges each of the last few years has at least earned them the right to play this out. And criticisms of Ainge's draft record are unjustified. The C's haven't had many valuable draft picks in recent years, and Ainge has unearthed some nice finds in the second half of the first round. Ainge acquired Rondo in a draft day trade. Ainge drafted Jeff Green and turned him into Ray Allen. Ainge drafted Avery Bradley. Ainge drafted Al Jefferson, who was turned into KG. Sure, he has some misses, but everybody does.

  • Mark

    As for Green. People still think he has potential? He’s been in the league five years. He doesn’t get it and isn’t worth starter money or even sixth man money. He’s like trick or treat Tony without one standout skill. At least Tony is a lockdown defender. Green couldn’t defend against an army of cockroaches.

    Ainge, not Doc, should be on the hot seat. He chose the direction this team would take personal wise not Doc.

    • emg

      It seems really hard to defend against an army of cockroaches.

  • skeeds

    I'm honestly almost happy we lose these games so obviously. I'm happy that KG proves he can't do nothing against a real center like Noah, no matter how much the Celtics advertised his move to the 5 spot as a game changer.
    Bulls#$t. What happened was that we were lucky as hell making it through the playoffs last year with no Bulls and Pacers in our path, no Al Horford, and no Bosh for the most part.
    So yes, I am happy because now there's nowhere to go but to cut the "small ball" crap and the "there aren't many real centers anyway", and make a serious change. The fact that we're in danger of not making the playoffs makes me even more optimistic. Because it means we need to move NOW!
    We can keep nagging about Bass, Sullinger, Green, Wilcox and how they're not effective enough. You know what? Stick a mid range player like Bass next to a Tyson Chandler, a Perk or a Varejao, and let's see if he's ineffective. You can't put an undersized PF (that all of the above pretty much are) next to a pure PF (tha KG most certainly is) and expect that frontline to hold up.

    • kg215

      Noah is NOT a real center and KG can guard him fine. Noah got 11 points on 4-7 shooting. The triple double required 10 ASSISTS, which happened because other players made their shots. I agree those other bigs you mentioned are all power forwards, and KG is really a 4 but we have to trade for that real center and we will see if Danny can pull that off.

      • CG12

        On what planet is Noah not a real center? If he isn't a center, then nobody is.

        • skeeds

          First of all, Noah is a center. He damn sure isn't a PF anyway. KG cannot guard him "just fine", the numbers talk for themselves. No matter how he got his triple double, the fact is, he did. But most importantly, he's not the only center who's had a great game against us. Pretty much every center from Splitter to Gortat to Lopez to Varejao has given us trouble. And those guys are no superstars.
          Point is, KG shouldn't need to guard these guys, even if he could do it perfectly. (experience says he can't, sorry). Neither should Bass or Green.
          So we do agree on the 2nd point. We need an actual center. If I was Ainge, I'd be on the phone with the Nuggets right now. They've got one too many. Koufos, McGee and Mozgov. I'd take any one of them.

  • Dmitry

    Now I know what Wizards and Bobcats fans usually feel, GO Cs!

    • janos

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  • CG12

    I am as irked by the Celtics' recent play as everybody else, but come on people, does anyone remember recent seasons? The C's stumble for a stretch, everyone calls Ainge and Doc idiots, calls come in for various players to be traded and for the team to be blown up, KG is declared old, etc. etc. Then suddenly things come together, the team rips off a monumental run, and all is forgiven.

    There are plenty of reasons to be concerned about where the team is now, but, as I have said when the team has struggled in recent seasons, this management and coaching group has earned the benefit of the doubt. It is really hard to put together a very good NBA team, and many of the moves that determine whether a given team will be highly successful are basically educated guesses. It is inevitable that some will pan out and some won't. The difference between good management and bad is hitting on just a few of those moves.

    Jeff Green has me shaking my head. I'd love a real center. Rondo's defense remains genuinely awful. But I am still betting (metaphorically speaking) on this team hitting its stride some time this year and making a strong playoff run. It is absolutely possible that that won't happen. But this group has earned the benefit of the doubt, so I'm riding with them until the wheels fall off.

    • skeeds

      Totally agree with the benefit of doubt, but we do have to admit 2 things.
      First, last year's run especially, kinda went our way. Don't tell me you weren't scared when Horford came back for the Hawks and almost destroyed us? We weren't forced to deal with our biggest weakness throughout the playoffs. No Bulls, no Pacers, and still, remember how much trouble Spencer Hawes and Lavoy Allen gave us in the series against the 76ers?

      Secondly, yes, there are things that will smooth out. Lee hasn't magically forgotten how to shoot the ball, he'll even out eventually. Come February, Rondo won't be jogging around screens and half assing steal attempts. Green, no matter how low his ceiling is, will be a better player in 3 months than he is now, just because he'll be 3 months further from his surgery. Likewise for Wilcox.
      But there are things that aren't really solved by working them out. Lack of size and inability to rebound aren't really fixable. They've been haunting us since Perk went down in 2010. They never went away, we just had some success despite of them. You could also say that they were the reason we lost every year though…

      • CG12

        While I am among those who thinks that Avery Bradley's return will help players slot into their proper places, and improve the C's perimeter D all the way around as a result, we could obviously use a legit center. You are totally right about the playoffs last year, and it has continued in a big way this year. Reggie Evans and Andray (?) Blatche have owned the C's twice this year. The illustrious Greg Smith torched us in Houston. Noah and Boozer – Carlos frigging Boozer! – bossed us last night. Chris Wilcox is the closest thing we have to a back-up center, and he hasn't been doing much of a job this year. He seems like he is good moving in straight lines in space, but struggles with moving laterally and in traffic. I have heard Kenyon Martin's name mentioned as a possible acquisition, and while I am really not a KMart fan, the idea of getting somebody with a little junkyard dog in him sounds pretty appealing. The C's bigs other than KG don't bring any attitude or aggressiveness.

  • TimJ

    Why are you giving Collins a D?? 5 boards in three minutes and at least a few nice defensive plays that I can remember. Just because he only plays in times of crisis doesn't mean he should earn a D.

    • janos

      what are you proposes? do not come web manger, only problem. bring solutions him to. is easy complain. is lazy post. make a efforts, Tim

  • Josh_5

    Interesting comments here, and alot of frustration. I believe the elephant in the room this year has been the terrible rebounding/defensive play. Now I am not a negative Nancy, but what I'm about to say is based strictly on knowledge of the game and general truisms. At the end of the day, you are what you are. Jeff Green is a known quantity. It sucks guys, but we have to face reality. If we don't get a rebounding big/center in here, this year is going to be greatly disappointing. Danny needs to address a defensive/rebounding big at the trade deadline or we're a 1st round exit.

    • janos

      hi Josh
      I am not sure this times today who is more frustrates ; me or rondos
      on consist, he is bail out nba celtics team night to night to night

  • janos

    Brayden, i have questions your post Bass'
    if go ;B to A-; is no qualifies does for get B+ grade? Please advice me. thank you.

  • Seasonticketholder

    Heres another idea. You could move KG back to the 4, start collins at the 5. And just pray for rebounds. The production from KG moved back to the 4 i feel would easily cover the points from his move. Besides im pretty sure collins could even pull down what KG is averaging, 7 rebounds a game?

    • jman

      Good idea. Doc can tel Colllllins to stay in the paint and rebound…And offense he can stay in the ppost and dunk/layup and rebound. Every other team has at least one player in the post to rebound or quick layupdunk. Look at last night with Noah to boozer the whole night. They must of scored 20 points off that stupid play and the Celtics did nothing to overcome that play.
      We need a true big man. KG and Bass are not that guy since they play more perimeter than post. Without the big man, there is no playoff run this year. And doc needs to please change his schemes. Different players and the same schemes as years past. Obviously these guys are not comforming to Doc's plays

    • CelticsBIG3

      Called that one man.

  • sctvlk

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  • Seasonticketholder

    Kenyon Martin doesnt solve a big man shortage. Hes rebounding is weak too. Just another bandaid pick up, that wont solve anything

  • CG12

    Oh, yeah, a totally unrelated point that I wanted to mention, just because I have derived almost endless amusement from it. Scal has been owning CSN's stats and info guys on the broadcasts. Twice now Mike Gorman has recited a stat that was given to him, and Scal immediately called bullshit on him and was right both times. 1. Derek Fisher has made a 3 in something like 1,000 straight games. Scal sent that one back immeidately. It turns out DFish had gone without a 3 just a few games previous to the Dallas game. No idea where the alleged stat came from, but it was wildly incorrect. 2. Noah logged his first career triple double last night. Scal called BS on that one, too. Turns out Noah did have a previous triple double. Scal then gloated on air over his mastery of the CSN stat guys. High comedy.

    • Phil

      The Derek Fisher one was actually that the Mavs as a team had made a 3 in a thousand or whatever consecutive games.

      • CG12

        Ah. Now that makes sense, but I'm pretty sure that that is not what Gorman said. In any event, Scal calling out their own stats guys during the broadcast was pretty funny.

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