Post-game Reactions

The Ray Allen saga has moved into day three on Tuesday and from the looks of it, it won’t be ending until at least this weekend. Here’s the latest via David Aldridge  of NBA.com:

The 36-year-old free-agent guard will visit the Miami Heat on Thursday and the Los Angeles Clippers on Friday, according to a source, and listen to their pitches.

Allen is also being pursued by the Memphis Grizzlies, who are seeking a replacement for free agent guard O.J. Mayo. The Grizzlies didn’t tender Mayo a qualifying offer last week, making him an unrestricted free agent. Memphis will offer Allen its $5 million exception.

Allen had conference calls on Monday with the Grizzlies, as well as the Heat, Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves, according to the source. But Allen is not currently scheduled to make visits to Memphis or Minnesota.

CH Analysis: Well there’s good news and bad news here. The good news? It appears Minnesota and Memphis are out of the running for Ray. The bad news? They were probably never seriously in the running in the first place. Miami and the Clippers have always been the real contenders to land Ray’s services and  no matter how you want to interpet Ray’s decision to meet with both teams, it can’t come as a big surprise. This is the art of negotiation. Ray likely has verbal offers from all four teams and BostonHere’s a look at what the serious contenders for Ray’s services are offering:

  • Miami can offer 3 million dollars per year.
  • The LA Clippers can offer up to the full mid-level exception (5 million) per year
  • Boston has reportedly offered 6 million per year in a 2 year-deal.

Now, it pretty much comes down to how well these teams can sell themselves and a meaningful role to Allen. Everyone likes to be loved, something Ray hasn’t felt at times over the last couple years in Boston (usually right around the trade deadline) so Ray is going to hear how good he is from a a team in Miami that has wanted him since 2010, as well as an up-and-coming squad in sunny LA.

They can’t give Allen anything more than Boston financially, but will either of these squads potentially insert a no-trade clause in his contract offer to appease the shooting guard’s security? Will they sell him well enough to the point where Allen’s agent can go back to Danny and say he is thinking about leaving and ask for another million or two per year? Or will Ray just simplty decide he’s had enough of Boston and move on to a place that will give him a better chance at earning a second ring?

There are no clear answers right now. Given his roots and the fact his family has been settled here for the last five years, you have to think Boston is the favorite still as of now. That may change later this week though. For now, we watch and wait as Celtics fans hope Allen wants to finish what he help started.

For more on the challenges of signing Ray Allen click HERE

For more on the intriguing personality of Allen click HERE

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  • Batman

    Click what?

  • GreenM&M

    Considering his personality a no trade clause may do the trick. Maybe we underestimated just how much all the trade rumors have upset our loveable OCD shooting guard.

    We can still offer more money than Miami. And even if he wins the title with Miami he'll be the 3rd or 4th Banana on that team.All the credit will go to LeBron and Wade.

  • High Rollers

    The only real question here is whether Ray will return to the C’s without a no trade clause. Without it, I think he has one foot out the door with the other soon to follow. Then again, if no team offers it, then those feet really should be back on the parquet this fall.

  • Anthony

    I know I'm going to get some flack for this but I think it's time for both parties to move on. Ray's ego has obviously been hurt but it just doesn't make sense for the Celts to offer a no-trade clause on top of what I think is a generous $12mil for 2 yr offer. Celts have to give AB mins so he can develop. It's unfortunate but Ray is the easiest of the Big 3 to replace. If a "franchise" guy like Joe Johnson can get traded for practically nothing it shows that the NBA is a business first. And Ray needs to look at it that way.

    • GreenM&M

      I think your comparison is slightly of misleading. The only thing about JJ that was "franchise" was his contract. that's why they were eager to trade him.

  • High Rollers

    One way Ray could interpret the larger offer from the C’s: it’s large enough to be more than a little off-putting to other teams come the next trade deadline. If I were Ray, that’s pretty darn close to a no trade clause because it means the C’s are willing to tie their own hands a bit to bring him back. I hope he looks at it that way.

  • Zain

    The only team that can offer Ray a no trade clause is Boston. You must be with a team for at least 4 years to be eligible for one.

  • Sully

    I guess my biggest concern with him returning is health. Those ankles have been bothering him since Seattle was a team. The Celtics can always get shooters….Pierce can shoot, Bass and Peitrus occassionally can shoot the ball. Plus the way Rondo moves the ball and apparently has started shooting and KG is just a beast…..maybe it's just time for Ray to move on. He got his ring with us and he clearly doesn't seem happy to be in Boston anymore. Ray will always been a great player but I don't think the Celtics really need him as much anymore and I loved watching him play for us but time to give the young guns a chance.

  • Brian

    The biggest reason Ray isn't coming back to Boston is that he's tired of dealing with Rondo on a daily basis. He's also not gonna forget that he was basically traded for OJ Mayo last season before the deal fell through. He's gonna go down to Miami and get wined and dined by Lebron, Wade and Bosh. He's outta here and the Celtics will have to try and get Jason Terry for the mid level. I still wouldn't rule out Mayo either because he may not be able to get a better contract on the open market than mid level money.

  • GowGow

    Ray goes to Heat and my respect for him will vanish.

  • -jp

    Really don’t understand why we want 2 more years of Ray. I love what he did here, but he’s old and will decline. Would rather get more athletic.

  • JR99

    I can't imagine Ray going to the Heat. For what? Less money, and to be their #4 guy at best, and almost certainly coming off the bench? Why, so he can show off another ring for which no one will give him credit? Nah, he's not so silly or childish.

    Clippers? Well sure, maybe. Maybe he'll uproot his whole family, and go clear across the continent in order make LESS money on an iffy team with an iffy future. But I doubt it.

    No, I think Ray will decide to return to Boston. I think the more relevant question for us is — are the Cs overpaying Ray now? I think they are. A 50% haircut is what's called for now — see Kevin Garnett — and he's been offered more than that. With highly suspect ankles which are post-multiple-surgeries, and which will almost CERTAINLY develop more bone spurs in time. With defensive skills that never amounted to much and have only gotten worse lately. And with NO reliable handles, as he turns the ball over quite reliably when confronted with any ball pressure. (Like PP's been doing recently too, unfortunately.)

    If it were me, I'd let him walk and sign Jason Terry, if possible. Or I'd offer him 5m max. I wonder if what they're doing with Ray is being driven by basketball considerations, or personal ones….?

  • chasindecarr

    if the celtics really want ray back, they need to put in a no trade clause, and be showing him the end of game 5 celtics-heat where all the fans were gone, and then show the end of game 6 where all the fans were right with them cheering for game 7…ray also needs to realize if one of miami's big 3 gets hurt, they wont be winning anything

  • ubk

    i think it is all about the money, can't we just play the game to win, what do u do with all those millions. just play to win.