Post-game Reactions

Trader Danny Ainge is back on the scene, and according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports, he’s looking to make a move into the late lottery for tonight’s 2012 NBA Draft.

CelticsHub Analysis: Will It Happen?

Before we all get too excited about this, let’s take a step back and look at the reality of the situation. As we all know, Ainge has the 21st and 22nd picks in the NBA Draft. By all accounts, these two picks alone will not be able to get the Celtics into the lottery. I spoke with former CelticsHub and current SI.com writer Zach Lowe on it and he’d be shocked if the C’s two picks this year and a future first round pick would get Boston into the top 10 this year. There’s just not enough value in those late round picks.

So what can Danny add to sweeten up the deal? Not much player-wise. Paul Pierce and Rajon Rondo aren’t going anywhere. Neither is Avery Bradley. That leaves JaJuan Johnson (who is probably worth less than a first round pick at this point) and E’Twaun Moore. Neither of those two would put any deal over the top. Since the C’s have no one else signed to their roster at this point, they can’t do any sign-and-trades either until later, leaving out that possibility.

So what’s left for them to do? Realistically, the best Boston can do here is probably get into the mid teens or very late lottery by trading their picks for this year and perhaps a future pick as well. So when your imagining the possibilities right now, think more towards guys in the teens, rather than something further up the draft board. That of course changes if Bradley comes into play here as a trade chip, but I doubt Ainge would even consider moving the 21-year-old at this juncture.

All things considered though, Celtics fans should take this as a good sign. Trading up means taking a player who is more likely to be able to help right away and if this team wants Kevin Garnett to come back and take another run at it, they are going to need all the assistance they can get. A top prospect who may have slipped out of the top-10 in this year’s draft would be a good place to start your offseason if you’re Ainge. Another reason to watch tonight closely.

We’ll have you covered all day (and night) long here at CelticsHub with live coverage and reaction from TD Garden as well. Doc Rivers, Danny Ainge, and whoever the C’s drafted are all expected to speak after the picks. We’ll have reaction for you here at CH.

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Brian Robb co-founded CelticsHub in 2009 and is the currently editor-in-chief. He is a producer and reporter at 98.5 The Sports Hub in Boston and also contributes to Boston.com and Bleacher Report among other outlets.
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  • GreenM&M

    At this point I think Danny is just shaking the trees to see if anything falls out.
    But I think this should be a pretty fund daft to watch. A lot of teams seem to be exploring trade options. If Royce White or Sullinger fall far enough it may make sense to trade 21 and 22 to move up a few places to get one of them.

  • T-Rob fan

    I hope Ainge package all picks to Bobcats and bring #2 Tyrus Thomas back,than we can draft T-Rob.

    • Vince

      Maybe he'll package all picks to get LeBron and Dwight Howard, too?

      • Ben

        Hmm, good thinking. Though I don't think Miami would part with LBJ for just the 21st pick. I say either package the 21st and next years top 20 protected first rounder for LBJ or trade the 21st for Anthony Davis straight up (for salary reasons I think the Hornets make this deal). Then we are looking at Rondo, Bradley, Pierce, Davis (with KG off the bench if he comes back) and Howard

    • lakershater13

      Excellent idea. Cs just need to toss Rondo in to match the way over priced contract of Thomas. Great idea.

  • Batman

    I'd rather have 2 nice players at 21/22 then 1 guy from the 15-20 range

  • skeeds

    Making his 3 rookies+2 sophomores less of a crowd is an important task for Ainge. The C's, KG or no KG, have no desire to run a season long basketball camp this year, with 5 prospects on the roster.
    So my bet is Ainge's gonna pack his 2 pics for even a small upgrade, like the 17th or 18th. If he is indeed going after Royce White, it should be good enough.

  • Robert

    ^I agree, depth was a major problem for this team near the end of the year.

    Plus, as I see it, we have two major needs:

    1. A big who has legit size/length who can score a little and defend. Our big man rotation was KG and Stiemsma. I guess you can throw Bass in there as a big (if he returns), but I'm talking legit 6'10" guys.

    Wilcox and Green might be back, but neither are primary big men. Who knows what we'll get from JaJuan.

    2. A wing who's a competent scorer with a decent handle. Hopefully he's at least long enough to provide some resistance on defense, but I think scoring ability is paramount right now with all the problems the C's have putting points on the board.

    We need to get Pierce some help, because (with Allen seemingly out the door) he's our only legit wing scorer, our primary ball-handler after Rondo, and our primary wing defender. That's way too much on Pierce's plate.

  • Lantrell Walker

    Why trade up?
    If memory serves me correctly, two 1st rounders are better than one. We're already deep in the hunt for Fab Melo and if Sullinger (deeply) falls to 21, look out.


  • ozcelts

    Agree that JJJ probably worth less than first round pick as he was picked at 27th in a weaker draft and limited court time this year to showcase his skills

    Facinated in the C's view on the kid- looking back on his draft notes- consensus all-american, winner pete newell award, 4 years in college.

    Maybe the kid just needs to hang with hot-plate williams this offseason- maybe get up to 240 lb. He may turn out OK

  • lakershater13

    I have no idea why everyone is so sold on White. The guy flat out cannot shoot. He can dribble and pass but we already have a PG that cannot shoot and everyone wants to add a SF/PF that cannot shoot either. Makes absolutely no sense to me.
    If Perry Jones III drops to 21 that is an obvious pick.

    • Anthony

      Agreed. Royce White is like a poor man's Wilson Chandler without the jumpshot. Not sold on Sullinger either, who I think is a homeless man's Elton Brand. Both aren't athletically gifted like PJ3. He would be a steal if he drops to 21. His movement especially the way he finishes the dunks is very similar to a young KG. Of course I'm not comparing the 2 but the kid's got potential.

      DA should just pick the best talent instead picking for needs and just trade them if the right opportunities arise. The team needs some youth but it might be a bit overboard with 3 potential rookies and 3 sophomores (Stiemsma is technically a soph too) on the roster.

      • CG12

        I've heard White compared to Anthony Mason, which makes him sound a lot more appealing.

        I'm very leery of Perry Jones III. Guys who don't have that competitive gene don't just find it once they get to the pros. If he couldn't find it in himself to dominate playing against SMU, how is he going to do when he finds himself being defended by LeBron James in Miami? Not feeling it.

  • skeeds

    ok, it's a few hours before the draft. Charlotte's shopping the #2 pick, Atlanta's shopping Josh Smith, the Lakers are shopping Pau Gasol, Mavs Odom, and Bulls (reportedly) Lluol Deng.

    I don't know if he'll really pull off a draft night crazy trade, but Ainge has to be pissing himself like an overexcited puppy right now!

  • High Rollers

    I really wonder if DA’s going to find a way to use tonight to get Josh Smith. That would really be fantastic if we’re able to keep our core intact.

    • skeeds

      It seem that it has to be a complicated deal, to get J.Smoove we'll need to send either Bass or Green via sign&trade, most likely. And I don't know whether we can include any of our draft pics in a trade that happens after free agency starts… I think we can't do that…

  • I_Love_Green

    I'm so excite for tonight

  • W2.

    I am pulling for T. Jones to drop to us. If not we pick up sweet shooting Andrew Nicholson and add hard nosed Jeff Taylor or swing for the fences with Q Miller. Next we bring in (undrafted) Quincy Acy (dude looks and plays like the love child of Kenneth Faried and Popeye Jones) and we can run the Vandy/Purdue/Kentucky boys out for the next five years. Maybe add a splash of Georgetown with Jeff Green and pick-up Hollis Thompson in the 2nd round.

    We go:


    None of that will happen. Thanks good. That team would get wrecked.

    • W2.

      God. I haven't even been drinking. Roll Celts. Let's go Danny!

  • CG12

    Woj cites "league sources"! It must be true! That guy is beyond worthless. It may indeed be true that Danny has made calls involving packaging the two picks to move up, but I'm sure he has made calls on tons of possibilities. You don't just go all in with one plan, you make a succession of preferred options and work like hell to keep them all in play as long as possible. You can bank that Danny is doing just that. This is going to be fun.

  • High Rollers

    @Skeeds Seems like the guys the C’s are interested in in tonight’s draft are eyebrow raisingly similar to the guys the Hawks are reported to be interested in. Maybe DA has a plan that stretches across draft night and into the early days of free agency to get Smoove.

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