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You Get the Horns: Bulls 89, C’s 80

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Chicago Bulls 89 FinalRecap | Box Score 80 Boston Celtics
Chris Wilcox, PF 32 MIN | 8-12 FG | 1-2 FT | 9 REB | 3 AST | 17 PTS | 0What do we want?
When do we want it?
Paul Pierce, SF 37 MIN | 3-11 FG | 4-4 FT | 1 REB | 5 AST | 10 PTS | -4Pierce has always had trouble against Luol Deng, but those troubles are usually limited to the offensive end. Deng absolutely torched him, and he continued to look like he’s starting to slow down (only 29 games into the season). He’s had six rebounds total in his last four games, for example.
Jermaine O’Neal, C 22 MIN | 0-2 FG | 1-2 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 1 PTS | +5Jermaine supporters: how does it make you feel when you defend Jermaine for his defense and he turns and gives up 11 layups and 15 rebounds to Carlos Boozer? Does it feel like a betrayal? Just kidding, Jermaine supporters: you don’t exist.
Ray Allen, SG 33 MIN | 1-5 FG | 8-9 FT | 6 REB | 2 AST | 10 PTS | +10 for 3, then 3 for 3, then 0 for 2. Not much like Allen to be streaky; those are Pietrus numbers. In the end, he shot under 25% but mercifully didn’t get exposed on defense like his teammates because he was guarding Ronnie Brewer.
Rajon Rondo, PG 39 MIN | 15-27 FG | 4-9 FT | 5 REB | 6 AST | 35 PTS | -2Rondo didn’t maintain his two-game efficient shooting streak, but he did manage to extend a two-game streak of not showing up in the fourth quarter. At times looked like the only semi-capable offensive player on the team, but that’s not much of a compliment when you remember that his job is to make his teammates look semi-capable.
Mickael Pietrus, SF 16 MIN | 0-3 FG | 0-0 FT | 2 REB | 0 AST | 0 PTS | -9He’s missed his last seven threes, but seven rebounds and a team-high +10! Hard to be mad at that. I’ll manage, though.
JaJuan Johnson, F 25 MIN | 5-11 FG | 0-1 FT | 5 REB | 0 AST | 10 PTS | -15His stat line is a coded message in binary.
Kevin Garnett, PF DNP SORE LEFT HIP MIN | FG | FT | REB | AST | PTS | KG connected on most of his jumpers and did appear to give the defense a boost from last night. He was the team’s leading rebounder. He was also handed his own butt by Noah and Boozer around the basket. Maybe Garnett wasn’t fired up to guard Noah because they’re such good buds?

Three Things We Saw

  1. Doc going with what was basically an 8-man rotation, the shortest we’ve seen in a while. Still, the bench actually outscored the opposition tonight, despite Chicago’s notorious depth.
  2. The beginning of a strange conversation about why this team has seemed to perform worse with Rajon Rondo in the lineup. Pierce and Allen are disappearing just as Rondo’s starting to assert himself. Are these trends related?
  3. A team being beaten by a better team. I can see home court winning this matchup every time…as long as Derrick Rose isn’t playing.
  • jimmy
    • dslack

      Makes no sense. Why does Toronto want Ray Allen and/or Tyrus Thomas?

  • jimmy
    • dslack

      Makes no sense. If LA is willing to give up Bynum (they're not), why doesn't Orlando take him? Why would Orlando want assorted bodies from the Celtics instead? Come on, be realistic with trades suggestions.

  • Sophomore

    It's sad to see, but not at all surprising. The streak this team had over a ten-game stretch was a lot of fun, but it was also a mirage. Buckle up. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

  • dis
  • W2.

    Rondo is changing the way he is playing and it will not help us win now. It may help us win later when this is Rondo's team, but this is not Rondo's team. Ugh.

  • Zack

    Doc needs to go back to the big rotation where everyone plays! It keeps everyone fresh! And we all know with this shortened season we could use it. When we had the bigger rotation we won games plain and simple. We have a strong bench why not use it? Sasha, marquis, and etwan all sitting seems like a waste of talent especiallu because they all can ball.

  • dunny dun dun

    can we trade Doc to chicago for Thibs? bulls put on a clinic against our "zone" defense

    • old knees

      I was thinking the same thing. Is Doc. proving to the "old guys" that they cannot do it any more by keeping them out there? Is Rondo tired of giving up the ball for inept play? The whole thing is hard to watch.

  • CG12


    • Jamie

      Agreed. It's getting annoying and you're going to lose readers.

      • hdavenport

        We did not create the widget, but we're actively trying to get it fixed.

      • CelticsBIG3

        If your going to stop reading a great blog because a widget doesn't work just leave now.

        • ripsonics

          word. quit being a bunch of whiny babies.

  • noche


    orlando gets quality players and massive expiring contracts while shedding turkoglu's terrible contract. We get dwight.

    • CelticsBIG3

      We have to pick up turkoglu's terrible contract?

    • dslack

      Come on, makes no sense. You don't rebuild by taking on a 35 yearold and a 36 yearold.

      • noche

        Who said anything about it having to make sense?

        • noche

          Also, Orlando isn't rebuilding around KG and Ray. They are using them to dump salary and clear their books.

          • noche

            And, it's Otis Smith and DA working the deal so all logic can be thrown out the window.

  • ripsonics

    i Posted this yesterday on the thread.. but it is rather relevant to number 2.


    C's are 9-12 with Rondo scoring 89.85 ppg, and allowing 89.95 ppg.

    C's are 6-2 without Rondo scoring 90.375 ppg, and allowing 80.125 ppg.

    Just Sayin…

    • ripsonics

      I guess ppl. really don't like math…..

    • janos

      You know is deceive number because Rondos very good, are you make sugest team beter no rondos? is more likely team want impress rondos so do beter move for show off?

  • Kafel

    I would prefer to give Celtics core one last shot and upgrade them instead of blowing it up. They could make some good trades like: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId
    or great like that one by bringing back Al ! http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId
    Sadly that rather won't happen but anything similar to this would be great boost for Celtics.

  • ripsonics

    I really wish people would stop posting stupid trades unless their intent is to post a stupid trade. Its not as if DA reads this blog to find cool trade ideas!

  • janos

    Hi Haynes, is Janos
    I did not see game but watch internet later, was not great see. Who play next? I hope get Dwight, very good center you know he like the hollywoods so i dont know where go. Are you excite for weekend? Go Celtics game? I have have daughter over and stupid boyfriend so not look forwards that. Probably do the cabage roll. Throw at TV if lose. Or boyfriend. Ok, thank you.

  • CG12

    Hey, CHub, are there perhaps issues with this comment feature? Multiple times recently I have written comments that have apparently been put up, but then disappear shortly (immediately?) thereafter, without a trace. I would be very weird for them to get deleted by an administrator, given that there is nothing controversial in them (unless saying Rondo's D sucks is controversial), so I'm not sure what is going on. Any help would be appreciated.

    • hdavenport

      Not sure why that would be happening. I can look into our comments approval thing.

      • skeeds

        yep it seems to hapen to me too…

        • High Rollers

          Happened to me on one comment the other day.

  • kryptonite119

    hayes, do you think we can make it to the ECF?

  • ripsonics


    With Rondo
    PPG Allowed: 87.33
    W/L: 9-12

    Without Rondo
    PPG Allowed: 80.00
    W/L: 6-2

    Ridicule me all you want on these numbers, and I know that the sample size is much smaller with the rondo-less data, but it is interesting to look at. I think Danny needs to decide if he wants to win with Rondo, or with the Big Three… or figure out why they are unable to win with them both. We'll See…

    • Didn't we go through this math for the past two years, but specifically I remember a few years back, where Rondo being on the floor upped Ray and Paul's percentages, as opposed to dropping them. It was attributed to Rondo making them shots, and giving awesome passes in transition or right where their shooting motion started.

      This would be a good thing for Celtics Hub to re-visit nowadays. Although as I write this, I wonder if it was Zach Lowe who did the analysis…

  • red

    I am not a Rondo fan, but he has been playing well the last couple of games. The thing that bothers me and continues to worry me is Pierce`s knees his legs look shot, and he can only score against middling players.If there is a trade at the deadline i have a feeling it is going to be Pierce moving,he just can`t jump anymore.

    • tbunny

      Yes but Pierce has had lengthy periods in all of the last three seasons where he looked shot. I thought he was absolutely finished in March 2010.

  • High Rollers

    Ripsonics, this article addresses the matter pretty well:

    • ripsonics

      yes it does. nice find.

  • Just found out Renaldo Balkman was waived by the Knicks. Is that someone we want?