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Game 9/66: Mavericks (5-5) @ Celtics (4-4) Open Thread

Dallas at Boston
8:00 P.M. ET
TD Garden

Offensive Efficiency:                                         
Boston: 103.1 points/100 possessions (10th)      
Dallas: 98.2 points/100 possessions (19th)

Defensive Efficiency:
Boston: 101.0 points/100 possessions (21st)  
99.6 points/100 possessions (15th)

Key Injuries: Boston: Marquis Daniels is possible (migraine). Dallas: Jason Kidd (back) is out.

Probable Dallas Starters: Delonte West (PG), Vince Carter (SG), Shawn Marion (SF), Dirk Nowitzki  (PF), Brendan Haywood (C)

View From The Opposing Bench: The Two Man Game

Boston and Dallas are a combined zero games over .500 so far this season and tonight’s garden party is less buzzy than the late game between Miami and the Clippers out in L.A. But for a Boston team that’s feasted on the weak sisters of the league and fallen to the, uh, strong sisters, taking down Dallas would be a good start towards rebuilding its championship caché.

Last Time On Celtics Vs. Mavericks:

Even though both games came during Boston’s best stretch last season, the C’s dropped two games to Dallas and allowed Nowitzki to shoot 60% from the field. In hindsight, that was a good indication the Mavs were a real championship contender and not just another strong western conference team.

You may remember this game for its thrilling/disappointing end. But you may also notice that Dallas has three new starters tonight and another major piece – Lamar Odom – coming off the bench. Boston’s not the same team. But neither are the Mavs.

Pregame Analysis:

Both teams are struggling to find their identities.

Come on. Vogue.

Boston has spent the last four days fussing over what’s going wrong, a list that includes rebounding, physicality and bench production, all of which are on watch tonight.

Dallas is still trying to fit all its new pieces together and is having particular trouble scoring the ball, a task that gets no easier with Kidd out of the lineup.

Expect a superheated contest at the point tonight between Rondo and West, who will each probably spend the night hawking each other up and down the court. They’re two of the most competitive guys in the league, especially when matched up against each other, as they have been, off and on, since they were both young guys on those terrible C’s teams of the mid-00s.

Dallas is particularly poor on the offensive glass (a boon to the C’s, who have been struggling to clean up the boards) and weak in transition (both attacking and defending).

It’s a perfect situation for a rested Boston team to play solid half-court defense and then get out and run their way to a victory.

Dallas can hurt you by knocking down the corner threes. They burned Boston last year in this area. So, the C’s need to close out on shooters. But a lot of tonight’s defensive success will come from how the C’s check Nowitzki. If he gets going early and they’re forced to send a second guy at him all night, it’ll open things up for everyone else. Containing him with a single guy gives the C’s a major advantage because Dallas just isn’t shooting the ball well right now (42.6%, 23rd overall).

I’d also expect a bigger lineup tonight, with Greg Stiemsma and Jermaine O’Neal on Haywood which keeps Garnett on Dirk. That’s a better matchup for Boston than Brandon Bass, who’s going to struggle to contest Dirk’s shots.


Boston is rested and should be focused. That should be the difference.

Boston 88 Dallas 84

  • gpa

    Oh man that Perkins offensive board and putback. Damn did we miss him that year….

    • CelticsBIG3

      Still miss perkins. Changes everything we'd be in considerably better shape with him

  • Lkk23

    Really with Perkins?! It happened almost a year ago, I thinkbits time to get over it!!! He has moved on and I think it’s about time for the fans to move on too.

    • CelticsBIG3

      Don't miss Perk yet? Cuz our rebounding was great tonight. Not to mention how great it was last Friday

  • I_Love_Green

    Pumped for tonights game. A lot of rest and a lot of practice hopefully gets us the W tonight. Can't wait to see Rondo go against Delonte tonight, and to see how KG handles Dirk. Should be a good game!


  • IBleedGreen


  • Greenman

    Why are we paying the ghost of Jermaine Oneal 6 million?

    • ElRoz

      Because I guy who never went to college (JO) is smarter than Danny Ainge, who signed him.

  • IBleedGreen

    The Truth!!!

  • Batman

    I'm in tears

    • CelticsBIG3

      I'm with you man. This team is a joke on defense they let Delonte West…. Who apparently is living out of his car… school us up in the first half.

    • janos

      dont cry batman

  • Chris from Danvers

    Another ugly one here.

    First of all, it is hard to believe that JO was ever the MVP of anything, let alone training camp.

    Second, this lockout is brutal on this team. The lack of shape and the overall lack of basketball sense is really hurting them….they just don't look good at all right now.

    Nice to see Pietrus with a contribution….wish Wilcox could show up.

    Nice to also see that the Celtics can make even the worst offensive rebounding team – like the Mavs – look like the Lakers of 2010. Ugh!

    • I_Love_Green

      Soooo incredibly frustrating to watch our guys stand there and wait for the ball to come to them off a miss.

  • I_Love_Green

    I hate this team. Truly they are borderline unwatchable at times. Our frontcourt is a joke on the boards and on help defense, our bench is a joke on offense, and our overall team energy and effort is a joke.

  • Batman

    Our defense on that last play made now sense…..
    1.) Have KG body up one of the best shooters in the game
    2.) Said shooter then attempts to drive to the basket, KG cannot stop his first step
    4.) And 1

    • I_Love_Green

      Bass came late because he didn't want to leave Haywood open! The offensive juggernaut that Haywood is, he was fearful of leaving him open.

      All jokes aside, Bass could not have played that any worse. Hate to say it, but BBD would have probably taken a charge on that play.

      • Batman

        i question why ray and bass two average to sub average defenders were in that play…..

        • I_Love_Green

          JO should have been in for Bass.

          • CelticsBIG3

            so he could draw the same foul Bass did. it did not matter at that point. look down at my post. JO sucks.

  • someguyinsac

    Ick and then more ick! Totally depressing and NOT looking forward to our next game. :(

  • ElRoz

    May I suggest that it seems that while last 4 years Boston had Tom Thibs and Frank as assistants, the current guys – who are they? I admit I am ignorant on this score….but does anybody know who the heck are this assistants are?

    They are no Thibs or Franks it seems….what is their contribution.

  • ElRoz

    Really…who the heck are these assistants – are they up to par to Frank and Thibs?

    • CelticsBIG3

      armond hill and kevin eastman, both have been there the entire time and beyond

  • CelticsBIG3

    JO sucks… JO SUCKS, JO SUCKS, JO SUCKS, JO SUCKS… Rebounding sucks… Rondo's pass to Allen for game winner sucked… Did i mention rebounding sucks? So sad. I watched the 08 Championship DVD the other night and felt like crying at the end. For many of us we are enduring the demise of a team we really are committed to for the first time. I was 10 when Bird hung up the converses, and watched over ten years of mediocre ball, death of Lewis, bad team after bad team, Eric Montross, Raef LaFrenze, good god kill me now.

    I love KG, but are we really giving him 24.5 million this year to pass up jumpshots against Ian Mahinmi when he could school him? Why did Pierce only attempt 5 shots? Rondo is clearly the best player on a crap team.

    Bright spot, Mickael Pietrus… He was phenomenol in limited time tonight.

  • guest

    Rondo just needs to turn into AI and just score the fucking ball at this point because nobody with the exception of Ray can score a friggin basket, and he doesn't even have a great jumper!

    • Batman

      I love it

  • janos

    what stupid finish

    i leave tv on clippers, see blake dunk paul! is such nice man.

  • Scerieviste

    Meravigliosa, molto divertente frase