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Game 4: Heat at Celtics Open Thread

 

Update from TD Garden:

  • Doc Rivers confirmed that Rondo will play tonight. He said Rondo will wear some kind of brace on his elbow, but he expects the point guard to “be okay.”
  • Doc also said Delonte West is just fine and that his bothersome shoulder is not a concern.
  • Carlos Arroyo is active tonight to provide depth at point guard. Troy Murphy will not be in the lineup.
  • Udonis Haslem, who has not played since November 20th because of a foot injury, is active for tonight’s game. It’s not clear how many minutes Spoelstra plans on giving him, but Haslem could be a potential spark for Miami. Not only can he match up defensively with Garnett, but he could provide some much-needed offense for the Heat bench.
  • Joel Anthony is expected to start in place of Zydrunas Ilgauskus. Anthony, though, had already been averaging 32 minutes per game this post-season, in comparison to Big Z’s 12 minutes.

-Mike Salvucci

This is massive.

The C’s take the floor tonight, again, with their season effectively on the line. If the Celtics win, there’s hope for Boston basketball beyond this weekend. If not, the C’s set themselves up for, at best, three consecutive elimination games.

The good news is that this team performs best when the lights are brightest. Boston played their most heartening game of the season on Saturday night, with a season-best outing from Kevin Garnett, a remarkable turnaround for Paul Pierce (who finally checked into the series) and of course, Rajon Rondo’s astounding return from a dislocated elbow.

The bad news is that Miami will likely get more than the nothing they from Chris Bosh on Saturday. And both Dwayne Wade and Lebron James should bounce back from subpar games.

The usual keys apply: control the paint on both ends, close hard on shooters, play inside-out on offense, and push tempo. But with everyone unclear what Rondo can do tonight, this may be the game that Danny Ainge was envisioning when he signed Delonte West.

Game four. Let’s do this.

  • Ray Ray for 3

    Exactly. Lets do this!!!

  • Zee

    Let's do this indeed!

  • Batman

    Must win game!

    • janos

      Yes Batman!! Hopefully get win otherwise make literal must win gamefive.

  • janos

    Here is Janos official score predict thread for gamefour. Please reply with your predict. Today I like Celtic but much close than gamethree. Bos 94 Mia 90

  • Big Z

    Long time reader, rare post-er to the Hub. Big game tonight — couldn't help but throw my two cents in. Here's what I need tonight:
    - Shaq Diesel gives me 5pts,5reb, 6 HARD fouls in say 10-12min
    - Jeff Green uses those HORSE LEGS and gallops the court on EVERY fast break (he's ridic fast but never uses it — i don't get it)
    - Ray/Paul show up (can't expect KG to get back in his time machine 2 games in a row)
    - Delonte runs the offense his way (don't try and be Rondo 2.0 beta) and puts some ointment on that lip

    Nuff said. Time to do some work. Let's go boys. Thanks for the always entertaining posts fellas — keep em comin.

    • janos

      Are you same Big Z make pitch for Cubbies?

      • Big Z

        Nope. Big Z from Seattle/Boston.

    • Zee

      I CAN expect KG to perform at a high level again. You bring what the game asks of you and leave it out on the floor. Go hard or go home. He is an all-star and hall of famer and if he is in the game he can play at a high level. You get your rest in between games.

  • Batman

    darn i was beat

  • Big Z

    Hear what ya'll are saying — but know that KGizzle can only give so much. Either he's a beast on the defensive block and has an "alright" offensive game OR he burns himself out trying to score 30 and Chris Bosh scores 28 cuz he's tired on defense. He can't do everything.

  • Ryan DeGama

    My God. Rondo has no business being out there but he's killing it anyway.

    Love how the C's have come out so far.

  • Ryan DeGama

    JO terrific so far. Chalmers looks like he's going to apply the pressure Bibby couldn't.

  • Batman

    Rondooooo

  • steveb

    Bosh sets moving screens every time. Please call one.

    • Batman

      ????? everybody in the NBA sets moving screens

  • prior

    Rondo should not be on the floor.

  • TedL

    Some genius offense, but some brain-dead offense and D.

    Doc oughta tell Rondo – whatever you do, don't let Bibby get in foul trouble. The longer he's out there instead of Chalmers, the happier I am.

  • TedL

    Delonte West is ALIVE!

  • TedL

    The bench is ALIVE!

  • Ryan DeGama

    Even Glen Davis is alive!

  • Guest

    Glen Davis looks like he lost a bit of weight. Might be just me though.

  • Batman

    Big Baby did something!

  • Ryan DeGama

    Bosh is just hopeless out there again tonight.

    • Chris O

      Good to hear, ain't no man can cover KG 'cept a clone KG

  • Df d

    Refs just bail out the Miami cheat all nite long. I remember when the game was fun. I think Harlan gets ten bucks every time shouts lebron

  • Chris O

    Hows the game going I got stuck at WORK ARRGGHHHH!!!

  • Ryan DeGama

    What does KG have tonight? One shot from the field?

    Predictably, the offense goes in the tank.

    This is not rocket science.

    • I_Bleed_Green

      Doc needs to play Delonte West with KG so he can't be double teamed.

      • Ryan DeGama

        Also think KG isn't getting great position and then Miami's doing a good job denying entry passes.

  • DSSS

    Never thought I could hate a team like I hate the heat. And I grew up watching bird. At least those laker teams mostly won fairly. The way the heat get away with murder every single night because of the sponsorship of tmobile…it's so pathetic. Join the wwe stern. It's less fake.

  • AJP

    why aren't they going to KG in the post…..is he being double-teamed as soon as he catches the ball down low?

    Wish I had called in sick today so I could watch this game…..

    • TedL

      In answer to your question – no. In fact, I don't know why.

      That said, when the Cs score 53 points in a half, their offense isn't the problem…

    • zebulon

      They're fronting him and sending weakside help to discourage the lob.

  • TedL

    The meaningless of +/-, illustrated: Ray Allen is +6 right now, best of the Cs' starters. Pretty sure he's not playing the best of them so far.

  • AJP

    Can someone post up a recap of the half, whos doing what well/bad… it looks like we are playing ok defensively on everyone apart from wade and lebron….. good to see bosh wont be doing much today!!

  • I_Love_Green

    We gotta step up in the 3rd quarter. We lost that double digit lead pretty fast. We seriously need to get KG in the post, and Ray open looks. Do that, and we got this game!

    LETS GO CELTICS TIE THIS SERIES UP!!!

  • skoobe

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  • DRJ1

    Figure KG will heat up in the 2nd half… hasn't posted much so far.

  • Keyser Soze

    Starters playing without any intensity or aggressiveness. This is getting worrying…

  • WTF

    Damn, take Rondo out. He's not effective in organizing the offense and not attacking the rim at all. Put West in so that KG can operate in the post. Why is it so hard to figure it out, Doc?

    • I_Bleed_Green

      1000 thumbs up for you!!!!

  • WTF

    The most dangerous 3 mins in the game.

  • AJP

    update us poor souls who have no access to tv pleasssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    • WTF

      consecutive good plays from Rondo and West attacking the basket. Rondo with a layup, and West resulting in a foul.

  • WTF

    Fat boy, pass the damn ball, you are way out of your range, shit!

  • WTF

    Why was not PP passing the ball to West? He's wide wide wide wide wide wide open!!!!!

  • WTF

    The Cs will lose if they keep playing like this lifelessly.

  • Keyser Soze

    Come on guys!!! Time to get going…

    Garnett has gone cold and Ray has missed a couple of open looks. Nails have been chewed off completely…

    • stephen

      Delonte of all people. Hell, I'll take it.

  • Ryan DeGama

    KG now 1-8.

  • WTF

    Good play PP.

  • prior

    At least KG is getting rebounds.

  • TedL

    Dang. The offense is just stagnant. Gotta do something to wake things up.

  • Keyser Soze

    DWest!!! That was a good possession after a bunch of bad ones. Is KG gassed? Why isn't he going to the post instead of shooting these long jumpers?

  • TedL

    Zombie Ray Allen picked the right time to come back to life!

  • prior

    That's a bad layup to miss.

  • TedL

    How did Rondo miss that layup? Noooo.

  • I_Bleed_Green

    FUCK MAKE A LAYUP!!!!

    • TedL

      that was awful. Second-half Rondo hasn't been good.

  • talesofJP

    lebron traveled there

  • stephen

    How did he miss that? Should have made it blindfolded

  • WTF

    attack the rim and get a foul!

  • TedL

    Why isn't that a breakaway foul on James Jones?

  • WTF

    20 secs to go, come on, attack the rim!

    • TedL

      Well, Pierce's shot hit the rim pretty hard. So in that sense he attacked the rim.

  • WTF

    damn, you could get a better play than that, where are the screens?

  • prior

    I am feeling extreme stress

    • TedL

      Yeah. This is killing me.

  • stephen

    Pierce held it for too long . Foul on Lebron?

  • TedL

    Second-half Rondo is just not good. Hate to say it, but true.

  • I_Bleed_Green

    KG's screen never came in the last play. He's too tired. And why not put jeff green in instead of rondo?

    • I_Bleed_Green

      West Allen Pierce Green KG this is Boston's best lineup…but too late

  • WTF

    It's falling apart… what a shame!

  • TedL

    Sad. The D has been good enough, but the O is putrescent.

  • stephen

    Well, the window of opportunity has closed.

  • Batman

    Dagger

  • WTF

    alright, the Cs are done if they do not score on this trip down…

  • Far East Man

    that's it, folks. season over. god dammit.

    • talesofJP

      just gonna say that

  • WTF

    that's it ladies and gentlemen, thanks for the good runs, it's been fun but it's the time to fade into history…

  • Far East Man

    Ohh my god i'm gonna cry…

  • Keyser Soze

    The team (especially KG) was gassed. They fought hard but they just didn't have the energy especially once it got to overtime. The last play in regulation was their best shot. Looks like the end of the season and the "3-year" window. It was great run though…

  • I_Love_Green

    This is one of the saddest moments in my entire sports life. I have no words to describe this feeling.

  • stephen

    I said I would believe the Heat could beat us if they could win in Boston. Doc should have recognized how out of gas KG was and yet we kept going to him when he had nothing left. Too many missed opportunities in the 4th quarter. Why Pierce did not take it to the rim rather then a fade away jumper is beyond me.

    • I_Love_Green

      The high screen and roll with P and KG worked on the play before that. Why the hell didn't they go back to it.

      • stephen

        Exactly, if Pierce is gonna hold the ball fot that long before he makes his break you gotta get something more high percentage then the fade away.

  • janos

    come on gang. Celtic in 7. ok no, but let me have that til next gamesix?

  • James Patrick

    That was a tough one. Turnovers and missed shots all at the end. If only we'd won it in regulation.

    It ain't over! The Celtics aren't gonna roll over like the Fakers. We're going out swingin'!

    CELTIC PRIDE! even in defeat!

  • lakershater13

    I believe the Celtics can still win the series but i dont think it will happen. One day in between games will be the biggest killer. Lebron and Wade will get 25 fts combine the next game easily. I dont see us coming back with two in Miami. You never know though.

    Lets go Bruins?

    • I_Love_Green

      yeah, go B's

  • Keyser Soze

    Actually I think Doc put KG in too early — around 9:15 left in 4th quarter about playing most of the 3rd. But it made sense then — the Heat were making a run and he gambled on winning then at the cost of losing if the game got stretched. Our best chance was to get a well executed last shot. Once the game went to OT, the Heat had all the momentum…

  • celtsemeraldtopaz

    KG allowed himself to be guarded anything else is just an excuse if your coach tells you what he needs you to do and you do the opposite and lose it`s on you also anytime BBD plays more minutes than Green we lose and that is how we will lose this series we are the better team but how bad does KG want it if he is not willing to listen to Doc and how bad does Doc want it if he puts a struggling player before the success of the team

  • stephen

    I hate to bring this up right now but how much production did we get from the center position tonight? As far as I can tell Jermaine O does little to nothing other then pick up lots of fouls. How many minutes did Shaq play tonight? And BBD has got to go. You talk about a dissapearing act.

  • stephen

    Jermaine O can't even finish at the rim.

  • Mike

    Well lets hope the Celtics bring it to the next game and try to win it, that's all I can ask.

  • Keyser Soze

    Got killed on the boards today. By a middle of the pack rebounding team…

  • stephen

    4 minutes. 4 fucking minutes. That's what Shaq played!!! Good call Doc. I'd rather have a banged up Shaq on the court any time then Jermaine. Good call Danny Ainge—Perk may not have given us much on the offensive end, but I doubt the Heat get to the rim nearly as much. Your gamble backfired–and Yes—Perk would have made a difference in this series !!!

    • Keyser Soze

      What did Shaq do to deserve more minutes? Did you see him labor up and down the court in game 3? And he got abused in the first 30 seconds he was in with both Wade and James drawing charges.

      When Ainge pushed this trade through, everyone said that the time to judge it would be in the playoffs. Well, that time has come, and saying this was a bullshit trade is an understatement. Who cares if Perkins did not have an offensive game? We got absolutely nothing from Green or Krstic (who?). And the Celts don't have a C next year. Shaq is done, JO can't give you more than 20-25 mins, and Krstic is bogus.

      • stephen

        Like I said, Perk makes a big difference as far as the Heat not getting to the rim. Shaq may or may not deserve more minutes, but considering who there throwing out on the floor –What;s the difference. If Ainge remains the GM after the bullshit he pulled, I'm gonna have a hard time supporting the C's

  • deron

    You gotta give the Heat credit. I'm a Heat hater, but they've shown for the first time that they can win a close game against a good team. I think Boston can still come back because Miami is still capable of imploding, but is highly unlikely. I'm looking forward to Miami-Dallas Part 2 if the Celts can't pull off the comeback.
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  • Jim

    Am I the only one pissed off that Lebron obviously traveled on his last basket in regulation?

    • http://www.ttshosting.com Alain

      Yes, you are. LOL Go Heat!!!

      • splo

        yes, you are.

  • GRT

    Say, does anyone know where Duane Wade learned that wrestling take-down move he used on Rondo?

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