Logo
Browse Archives by:

Game 80/82: Celtics (55-24) @ Heat (55-24) Open Thread

 

Visit the Heat website for Jamaal Magloire wallpaper.

Boston at Miami
AmericanAirlines Arena
3:30 PM EST
CSNNE/ABC

Offensive Efficiency:
Boston: 104.3 points/100 possessions (t-16th)
Miami: 109.3 points/100 possessions (2nd)

Defensive Efficiency:
Boston: 97.7 points allowed/100 possessions (2nd)
Miami: 100.9 points allowed/100 possessions (5th)

Probable Heat starters: Mike Bibby (PG), Dwyane Wade (SG), LeBron Raymone James (SF), Christopher Wesson Bosh (PF), Erick Travez Dampier (C)

View from the opposing bench: The Heat Index

The Celtics face the Heat in the third-to-last game of the season. Their records are identical. Tonight’s game is going to have a substantial impact on which of these teams ends up with the second seed in the Eastern Conference.

The interesting angle is that the reward for that seed, if one finds there to be a negligible difference between New York and Philadelphia in the first round, basically comes down to home-court advantage in the second round between these two teams. Do the Celtics play Game 7 in front of a Garden crowd beating sword against shield, hungry for human flesh? Or in American Airlines Arena, Miami fans’ chosen destination for checking their Blackberries? That is, until the real action begins…t-shirt guns!!! Then the game ends and everyone heads to a club that is probably called Flaveur.

I kid, of course. But it’s true that tonight’s game will test how well the Celtics can withstand a Heat crowd fanning up all over the place. Whatever happens, I’m honestly not all that disappointed to be vying for the second seed instead of the first. Without Perkins, Orlando is a much more difficult matchup on both ends. As we peeked at through our fingers on Thursday night against the Bulls, the Celtics (and especially Rondo) have a tough time against teams that defend the paint well and run an inside-out offense. Let the Bulls deal with Dwight Howard, I say. Don’t you want the Celtics to be the national heroes that take out the Heat?

HOW THE CELTICS CAN HURT THE HEAT

Compared to every other team in the Association, the Celtics’ game plan for the Heat is reasonably sound. Where Chicago tends to allow the Heat’s Big Two to pile up points while making sure that the periphery players are iced out, Boston centers its defense around A) stopping James and Wade at the basket, B) forcing James and Wade to take threes, and C) not worrying about anyone else. This strategy has worked on James once and Wade all three times the teams have played. He’s shooting 27 percent against Boston.

The interesting thing, I learned from the Heat Index today, is that Wade hasn’t necessarily been killed by poor shot selection. He’s 6 for 18 on layups against the Celtics, suggesting that his terrible shooting has either been about bad luck or interior defense, neither of which is really great news for today’s game. The nice thing about having a great defensive center against the Heat is (or was, rather) how he could drift off of Joel Anthony or Juwan Howard and stop more talented players from attacking the rim. The grim truth is that the C’s haven’t played Miami without Shaq or Perkins. But I’m guessing the game plan remains intact for the other O’Neal, Krstic, and Davis.

HOW THE HEAT CAN HURT THE CELTICS

This is really more bout how the Celtics can hurt themselves, but they’ve been almost deliberately sloppy with turnovers in the last few games. Rondo’s been chucking the ball out of bounds with regularity, Jeff Green’s been attempting hesitant entry passes that go about two feet into the opponent’s hands, and even KG and Ray have been trying to squeeze passes through holes much smaller than the ball itself.

If the Heat grab turnovers and get the ball on a break, they’re going to score. It’s the closest thing to basketball inevitability there is. The Celtics need to run space-inducing pick-and-pops/rolls before delivering the ball to their teammates, and just generally tighten their ish up.

Also of relevance is whether or not Rajon Rondo hurts the Celtics by trying to get too involved. Now that the Heat have Mike Bibby, who really does nothing but chill on the wing waiting for the ball, Rondo’s primary responsibility is going to be making conversation with him on the weak side (Bibby’s cousin coached Rondo in high school, so they can start with that). If he gets too bored and starts double-teaming inside, Bibby’s going to casually make him pay. That’s the job for which he is not very well paid.

WHAT WE WANT TO SEE TONIGHT

The criminal abuse of Mike Bibby by Rajon Rondo. We saw his bruised ego translate into statistical production against the Wizards, but somehow I feel like that probably wasn’t enough. He’s going to want the ball tonight, so he needs to keep it inbounds and out of his opponents’ hands.

At the same time, we need Paul to contain LeBron to about 30 and Ray to be as good as he’s been on Wade. We need KG to hit every long jumper he takes. And we want Jermaine O’Neal to get revenge on his former team for ditching him like he was washed up or something. Those idiots. What were they thinking? He finished 3rd in MVP voting only seven years ago!

PREDICTION

Heat 96, Celtics 92. That doesn’t necessarily amount to a prediction for a playoff series between these teams. Plus, this is the second time I’ve predicted a loss, and I was wrong last time.

  • someguyinsac

    I hope we're focused and do everything possible to keep the Celtics monkey on the backs of the Heat.

  • I_Love_Green

    Please please please win this game today. I want that 2 seed, and I want to sweep the season series with the Heat. Please come out with energy, and make somewhat of a statement to the Heat for the playoffs.

  • hdavenport

    Magic are holding it down against the Bulls WITHOUT Howard right now.

    • someguyinsac

      They did fight the good fight, just ran half a second short on the clock.

    • Zee

      Game 1: 111/82 Orlando, Game 2: 105/67 Orlando, Game 3: 89/81 Bulls (close game). And today w/o Howard, still close. The Magic have the Bulls number. They have no answer for Howard.

  • Mike

    Big baby is just useless on the court. I don't know how we're gonna do in the playoffs if doc gives him extended minutes…

  • talesofJP

    refs wont stop callling fouls! This game is slowing down before it even gets started. I have a sinking suspicion that they will swallow the whistles in the 4th quarter

  • Mike

    Something tells me chalmers is gonna get a hard screen

  • James Patrick

    It's getting annoying watching BBD make such bad decisions.

  • X-RIP-x

    I don't get the new BS tech rules… West gets tossed fo couple of words and Bosh punches the shit out of the air around him and only gets one?! Just watch the reaction to the tech!!!

  • james patrick

    Why the F#$K is BBD taking up the court?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Can somebody go back and give that dumb idiot some help?! He's not a point guard. WTF!

  • I_Bleed_Green

    Watching rose and rondo is like heaven and hell

    • Batman

      Ha!

  • Mike

    We're out rebounded 24 to 9??? oh my….

  • WTF

    Pathetic!

  • I_Love_Green

    Holy hell this is almost as bad as the bulls game. Our passes are absolutely awful, our decisions are awful, and our defense was awful in the 2nd quarter. I haven't even noticed that Rondo was playing, and ever since Ray hit that early 3 I haven't heard from him since. Run screens for Ray, make smart passes, and when Baby gets the rebound, COME TO THE BALL!!

    Jesus Christ I see no way we win this game.

  • stephen

    These guys are just going thru the motions here. Where are this teams balls?

  • I_Love_Green

    And can we feed the ball to KG in the post please.

  • I_BLEED_GREEN

    Miami's biggest weaknesses are supposed to be their point guard and center positions but our pg is sucking and Joel Anthony is out-rebounding our big men.

  • Ryan DeGama

    Well. This is discouraging.

  • talesofJP

    a few minutes into the 3rd…we're not winning, not with the way we're playing now. Maybe someone of the bench gets super hot but thats the only way. Hope we don't play this way in the playoffs, we'll be out in Round 2

  • I_Love_Green

    I am not excited about the playoffs. This is really bad now.

    Thanks Danny.

  • WTF

    This is all Danny's fault. He took a championship caliber team and spinned it into a pack of softies.

  • Ryan DeGama

    I think the Celtics team that beat San Antonio is one we'll see in the playoffs. Also think we'll see the one that lost to Chicago. Hard to win a title with that kind of variation in play.

  • stephen

    Agreed —- This is Danny''s fault. This team is lifeless and without Shaq we are in real trouble here.

  • Zee

    Celtics playing like pigeon terds on a park bench in the summer that hardened up and turns to powder when rubbed up against…

  • WTF

    how the hell does Ray only get 4 shots and that fat guy get 7? tell me, Doc, tell me… ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • Zee

    When will people learn to dunk the ball with authority and not try to lay it in????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • talesofJP

    god damn it Ray!

  • talesofJP

    get baby out of this game, he's done nothing!

    • Zee

      And who goes in if you take him out? It's not his fault he has to be in there because we're short staffed. And he's not the only problem or the cause for this deficit. It's a team effort.

      • Mike

        At this point I'd take Murphy over Davis…At least he's taller…

  • I_Love_Green

    I'm just looking forward to when Baby is gone.

    • Mike

      I agree… but something tells me that danny traded Perk to keep this guy…

    • Morpheus

      I'll be holding up my banner "NO MORE BABY NO MORE BABY"

  • WTF

    Where the hell is the D? And when will KG get inside and not just try jump shots? Fat boy, pass the ball, you are a role player, you are not a hero, not a hero on this team anyway.

  • SDD

    Sorry, Davis Sucks.

  • Zee

    The one thing other teams have over us that they maintained most of their original lineup after the trade, and no-one traded the fiber of their team. You trade has-beens, players nobody wants, and people who want to leave. Perk fit NONE of those descriptions. Neither do you trade betting on a lame horse to get healthy (Shaq). When is the last time someone traded in hopes that someone would return from injury?

    Basically what I'm saying is that we traded away our chemistry, the kind that other teams did not have. We had the closest squad in the NBA, and Danny threw it away. It's not so much about Perk, as it is what Perk meant, which was chemistry. And you don't trade that away.

    Yes, Nuggets are doing well, but they got all above average players in return. They got starters and no role players. Us? Not close. All 2nd AND 3rd string players. Smh…

    • Morpheus

      I got to agree with you here, basically because i underrated the effect it could have on the team. I mean i had the belief that KG, Pierce, Ray and Rondo COULD handle it. I knew they would have trouble getting over it, but i believed they would eventually get over it. It seems it's gone DEEPER than what i thought.

  • Zee

    BBD has to shoot, because he's the ONLY one they're not double teaming.

  • Ryan DeGama

    Miami is walling off the paint against Rondo in the halfcourt, just like Chicago did. Then recovering hard to challenge shooters. Without any inside offense, and no offensive rebounds, that's like kryptonite for this Celtics' offense. One and done. Again and again.

  • yordgreat

    the big 3 era is officially over……………our bench is dead theres no way we can win any series

  • celticfan2

    well ya'll Can thank good old Danny boy for dwstroying the celtics. they are no more. had to turn it off. thank allot asshole danny

  • Mike

    The game is done yet I think Ray's gonna play 40 min…

  • Zee

    If I had Ainge's # I'd give him a few words. Trading Perk wasn't the problem. Trading away our chemistry was. It WAS best in the league.

    • Mike

      I still think the problem is not having MarquisTAPosey type player. There's nobody to defend…

  • Zee

    I feel like I'm in mourning… :-(

  • Zee

    Guess DA never heard that saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I_Love_Green

    This is just sad to watch. It hurts so much knowing that there probably wasn't a team that could beat us in the playoffs when we had Perk. If Danny would have just traded Nate and a 1st for Anthony Parker, we'd be set for the title.

  • James patrick

    Well there you go. We saw them against the Bulls on Thursday. We're seeing them against the Heat today. Ainge ROYALLY EFFED UP a great team. There is no chemistry. Jeff Green wasn't evening looking for the ball from Rondo on that last fast break. I'll be surprised if we make it past the 2nd round. Please click don't like to this comment. I don't like it either. It's the damn truth and whether or not you like the truth, it is what it is. Oh and PS BABY, you're a frickin idiot! I hope KG makes you cry after the game ya jerkoff! Our vets deserve better than this. Ainge set them up to fail. I wanna be wrong here. please someone tell me why I'm wrong because right about now I'm changing the channel to watch The Masters. Golf people. Golf. Augh……

    • James Patrick

      But I still believe in the Truth! C'mon Pierce!!!

  • I_Bleed_Green

    Lol rondo…

  • I_Bleed_Green

    Where is batman? Please tell me how Rondo is elite?

    • Ryan DeGama

      It's interesting in that he's elite in a number of key aspects of the game. But he has this massive critical flaw that renders him entirely defensible.

  • stephen

    Your not wrong. This team is finished. They will not get out of the 1st round. Danny Ainge has totally fucked this team up. If they don't fire his ass after this, my allegiance to this team goes bye-bye. I don't want to hear about what that stupid fuck did before either. It's about now and he has ryined this team.

    • ElRoz

      Danny had no back-up to Pierce after Daniels went down. remember? He had no bench in the middle of the season. Perk would not have helped them on offense…and their diffence is still 2nd best in the league. The problme is Doc cannot coach good offense no matter who is on the team. If they get McHale to head coach next season, you will see a much better offenisve team.

  • WTF

    The problem is two-fold: We lost Perk in the trade that fxxked the chemistry of this team; we also lost Thibs who is the real mastermind behind what this team did in last few years. Rivers is just a big mouth, look how our D degraded since Thibs left town.

    • Ryan DeGama

      The D is better since Thibs left. http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort

    • ElRoz

      Boston has better D this season than last season.

      • ElRoz

        Boston;s problem i offense…serious problmes on offense with Doc teams. He is a poor offense coach….put Nate, put Green on the team…put KG and Rayy Allen and Pierce…and the result isthe same: a sub-par (!), not even an average offensive team. Now that's a serious issue. Danny tried to improve that bygetting Green, Kristic, and Shaq…but Doc can have freaking Kobe, Dirk, and Nash and he still couldn't average 100 ppg.

  • Mike

    Keep KG ship out the rest.

    • James Patrick

      Pierce was great today. the best. Ray is having his best season in years. Rondo was great… until they traded Perk. but the rest, I dunno…

      • Mike

        i agree. ok let me try again. keep the big 3 and get rid of everyone else, DA and Doc.

  • James Patrick

    Unless the Celtics sign Michael Vick, Kobe Bryant, Tiger Woods, Roger Clemens and Mike Tyson, I'll always be a Celtic's fan. I stuck with them for 21 years of lackluster teams. One bad finish isn't going to get me to stop being a fan. Does anyone remember the Rick Pitino Days? What about M.L. Carr and Jimmy Rodgers. Those guys drove me crazy. Much harder times to be a fan. But what hurts most about this season is we were in a prime position and Ainge took it away from all of us!!! This team could easily be 3 time defending champions right now. if KG doesn't get hurt in 09? Remember the winning streak that season? And what happens in game 7 if Perk doesn't go down in game 6 of last year's finals? So yeah, this hurts. The lack of chemistry is going to do our team in. Not talent. Look at the Magic. And that trade happened early in the season. I'm so sad but what can any of us fans say at this point. At this point it's all just venting about the inevitable.

    • Zee

      There would be no game 7 if Perk would not have gotten hurt in Game 6.

    • ElRoz

      Doc CANNOT work new players into his "system"…Orlando can…Portland can with Wallace…Bibby is playing fine with Miami…and Perk is doing quite well in OKC.

      As for Per for game 7 last year: they would not have been able to score any better with Perk there. Their problem was crappy offense – its the same problem this year and it is partly on the coach. That's why Danny Aige tried t get more offenisve players on the team. But Doc just kills any offense you got, he did it with Nate, he is doing it wth Green, and his "system" turned KG into a hesitant player who doesn't look for his shot. The Celtic's team got outscored by the Lakers last year, Perk would have made no difference.

      • Ryan DeGama

        Doc did not turn KG into a hesitant player. If anything, Doc has pushed KG to shoot more. Doc is the one who wants KG down on the block.

        KG is a) old and b) on a team with more offensive options than a) when he was young and b) on a team he was expected to carry offensively.

  • yordgreat

    well at least im pretty sure we are gonna win the title with my player in nba 2k11 better focus there coz there is absolutely nothing for this team here in the real nba world

  • ElRoz

    I'm not sure anny Ainge knows te guy he hired as head coach – Doc Rivers. Across the NBA many new players jell with their team and coach after the first monht. With Doc, it takes more than a season to just work the player into his system….and so Danny goes out and gets him 5 new players during mid-season? The result is clear…he doesn't play themand he exhausts the starters who are giving lss and less with each month – KG, Pierce, Allen, and Rondo are giving less and less as the seaosn goes by. Meanwhile the new bench suck…sucks…sucks
    The Celtics team looks like a bunch of pussies. They workedall season and had the #1 seed in the East…then they crumbled and now hve the same position as last year – #3 and #4 arthe same people, no home court in the 2nd or 3rd rounds…it's the ame seeding only with more miles and work on the starters. That's a bad result. I much rather have them take it easy and get #4….but its too late for that.

  • Morpheus

    Yeah that trade is looking worse by the game isn't it.

  • amazon singapore

    The Crysis Decimation Pack brings all new maps and weapons to the Crysis 2 universe. Battle in all-new locations and once again prove yourself the master of the Nanosuit

no prescription xenical bupropion tab zithromax 500 mg pfizer viagra on line buy deltasone online cipro in south africa purchase viagra without a prescription levitra website orlistat price discount cialis online cialis online us paxil lexapro cheap cialis in uk canadian propecia buy cipro in usa cheap viagra no prescription generic levitra canada viagra tab generic levitra mastercard natural alternative to paroxetine buying viagra from india purchase discount cialis buy prednisone online without a prescription lowest cost levitra best and cheapest viagra pills cialis pricing nolvadex price no prescription how to order cialis online celebrex price where to buy cialis cheap non prescription generic cialis top selling herbal viagra cialis discount overnight viagra sales in uk alternative paxil genuine cialis online viagra online stores online rx diflucan buy cheap generic viagra zithromax dosing how much is accutane cialis com purchase cytotec online azithromycin cheapest cheapest viagra online online pharmacies uk amoxicillin canada diflucan buy daily cialis online accutane oklahoma viagra cheap canada viagra discount sales purchase viagra in uk buy amoxicillin online xenical pharmacy ordering levitra buying viagra online legal cheap authentic viagra one day shipping amoxil side effects viagra how to buy cialis online best best price celebrex generic cialis lowest price buy cialis in canada us cialis propecia mexico online prescription viagra azithromycin purchase online cheap cialis online without a persciption cialis order on line dose amoxicillin levitra canadian cialis canada 5mg celebrex cost australia azithromycin 500 mg viagra online sale buy levitra in europe wellbutrin online pharmacy viagra canada pharmacies order nolvadex viagra professional pfizer cymbalta australia for sale buy online purchase viagra flagyl buy generic cymbalta 20mg wellbutrin online prescription cialis online american internet viagra pharmacy buy cipro online cheap viagra pill viagra approved viagra buy usa side effects for zithromax viagra 25 mg canadian pharmacy cheap generic viagra cipro generic 100mg of paxil real cialis pharmacies herbal alternative to lasix order viagra in canada cipro xr bayer discount clomid levitra online sales cheap levitra prescription cialis brand approved cialis cheap viagra discount generic viagra professional viagra pfizer 50 mg female viagra europe furosemide 40mg tab