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Doc Rivers: Players Knew About Kendrick Perkins Deal Before It Was Made

 

Doc Rivers joined Dennis and Callahan on WEEI.com this morning and discussed a variety of topics, highlighted by more talk about the trade of Kendrick Perkins to Oklahoma City.

Steve Bulpett had a report in the Boston Herald last Saturday, noting that the “stars approved and aligned” behind the deal, a statement that was openly questioned and dismissed by Yahoo! Sports NBA reporter Marc Spears, after the players somber reaction to the deal. Turns out, according to Doc, that Bulpett was right.

“I think they do [understand the deal],” Rivers said. ”I think our guys knew that from the beginning. Listen, everyone was upset. But we talked to our players — at least three or four of them — before we made that deal. And they all thought it was a good move, but they all knew it would hurt if we did it. And it did.”

Now who do you think those three of four other players might be? Perhaps the other three or four members of the starting lineup?  Some commenters scoffed about this development when we reported it intitally. Why does it matter? What’s the difference now that it’s over?

I’ll tell you why. That’s a veteran locker room in there, probably the most experienced onE in the league. Big trades like the one last week usually don’t go down, unless they are approved by the guys that mattered.

Surely, it hurt to lose Perk but the C’s understood they needed help and healthy bodies, especially on the offensive end. And going forward, as far as team chemistry goes it’s a lot different to have a team with new guys that your future Hall of Famers approve of, rather than a team that had the rug pulled out from under them unexpectedly with this move by Ainge.

The trade is still a risk, a very calculated one, but I feel a lot better knowing the starting five gave the go ahead to Ainge on it before it was made.

  • Guest1

    "The starting five gave the go ahead to Ainge on it before it was made" makes it seem as if they were responsible for the decision making. Just because Doc said they talked to them about it before the deal was made doesn't mean they were given any decision making power. They may have just been letting them know to feel for any major problems. Your last sentence is entirely misleading.

    • MikeD

      I don't think thats what Brian was trying to say at all. Giving the go ahead just means that they gave it their approval because they understood why it was a good move.

      • Jay P

        Agreed.

        And I'd concur with Brian, if Doc had talked to those guys and they flat out vehemently opposed this trade, I have a hard time believing it gets done. They most likely said "Well, I don't want to see Perk go, but I get it." Or something along those lines.

  • talesofJP

    I do feel better knowing there was some approval. In reality there was no way management would have blindsided them with something like this in a year where we could realistically win a title

  • Guest

    I just hope Perkins was one of those 3 or 4 guys… and I doubt he was. That's all I have to say about that

  • MikeD

    When I first heard about the deal i was furious. After a couple of days I started to really think about it from a basketball perspective and it started to make a lot more sense. My only lingering concern was about the chemistry of the team, and this pretty much answers that question. Now knowing that they were on board, chemistry shouldn't be an issue. A lot of basketball "experts" and I use that term very loosely, say that it is a big loss for Boston because Perk can defend Dwight Howard, Gasol and Bynum. Being experts, don't you think they could dig a little deeper than that? The Magic aren't a good enough team to beat us even if Howard goes for 30 and 20. This deal makes us a much more versatile team, a MUCH better offensive team, and we will still be the best defensive team in the league. Are people forgetting that we remained #1 or #2 in the league in defense all year without Perk? I love Perk as much as the next guy, but we all know his limitations and as great a guy he is, he is replaceable as a player. I really think that all of the negative feedback was because people were sad to see Kendrick Perkins the person go, rather than the basketball player.

  • MikeD

    Also, Jackie MacMullan wrote a terrific piece (as usual) about the trade and the C's title chances. http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba/columns/stor

    • Chris O

      Mike D, your 2 posts made you my hero. Very true about Perk and Jackie MacMullen

  • lkk23

    i think perkins knew about it before it happend. there is a video i think that morning where perkins was like 'i'm a celtic' and that whole interview he seemed really down and just not happy at all. i get that it may just be his personality but i dont know it just seemed like he knew something was up.

    • Chris O

      Agreed, I felt like he knew something COULD go down, he just freaked when it did.

  • MikeD

    I think it is a bigger adjustment for Green because he has been a starter his whole career. It will probably take time for him to get used to a bench role, and bench minutes. He has shown flashes of what he can be though, hopefully he will get in a nice groove by the playoffs.

    • kricky

      Good post Mike D. I think a lot of folks feel the same way here.

      I'm still pissed but it's time to move on and focus on the guys we have.

      So far Green hasn't shown too much. But he should get some time to work himself into the system now with BBD out for a while. That may be the silver lining to that injury.

  • jack

    Found this on the daily thunder today.

    http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2011/03/this-is-

    • greenemberg

      lol, go check that link

      • somguyinsac

        Agreed, it's awful funny. Thanks Jack!

  • rav

    I guess they would have known about the trade, but were hoping, or expecting, that it wouldn't go through. Maybe that's why they were still shocked/depressed when it happened, even with prior knowledge.

    • Jay P

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but who has really said they were "shocked." I mean, if someone can link me a quote that says that, ok, but I know I've heard a lot of "Tough day to play basketball", "Hurts to lose Perk", "Feel like a lost a family member" etc, etc… And all that is understandable, and expected, of course.

      But has anyone really directly said "Wow, I was shocked this happened, I had no idea."?

  • Jay P

    Not sure on that, I doubt they really asked him "Hey is it ok if we trade you?" Bottom line is, if you're going to trade a player, you don't really care if they are ok with it. You care if the guys that remain are ok with it, of course, but not the guy leaving. That's just the cold truth of it.

    But I do think Perk had to know, once he declined to take the discount, that this could be a possibility. And his mention about OKC before the trade definitely suggests that. I don't doubt he would have liked to stay in Boston, but he was going to cash in for whatever he could (as is his right) and if Boston wasn't going to pay that, and OKC would have, don't think for a second he would have stuck around out of loyalty. If he was going to do that, he would have signed the extension in the ifrst place.

  • Scott

    This is an interesting development, but better than them not knowing. I think it’s important that the veterans knew about this especially because this is their team. This trade could not have happened without an ok from the guys. I don’t think Ainge and Doc did anything because the big four approved it, I think they simply wanted to make sure they would be ok with it. There’s a difference between approving a trade, and being ok with a trade. This team is committed to winning, and they believed this would help them in the long run. Our offense is clicking right now, and the new additions should only help. I am still worried about the paint…. And now BBD. But at least it seems as if everyone on the team is on the same page.

  • Chris O

    According to Doc (from the radio) big baby will miss 5 days??? That is nothing for a strained patella tendon. It will heal mostly that soon but would not fully heal until 3-4 weeks.

  • Banner18

    Get over it. It was a good trade right now. Perk was not the second coming of Russ or even Moses Malone. Nenad is much better on the offensive end, is just as good a rebounder, and on D has even been hedging out on screens and getting back to his man. If Green is as good as advertised, it will be a very good trade. And if Shaq is healthy enough to give us 20 quality min in the playoffs, it will be a great trade. As a bonus, next year we get the Clippers (protected) draft pick. Everyone loved Perk as a person, he played with a lot of heart, but he was not a skilled basketball player, and I would take Green and Nenad any day of the week.

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