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Closing Time? Game 4 Open Thread

 

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Saturday night, the Boston Celtics sucked the life out of the Orlando Magic, imposing their will on both ends of the floor, to build what should be an insurmountable 3-0 series lead.

Tonight, they look to finish the job in game 4 at the Garden, avoiding a return trip to Disney World and earning themselves a week to prepare for their unnamed opponents before the start of the NBA Finals.

Though the series result is not in doubt, there are a lot of questions to be answered tonight, particularly surrounding the Orlando Magic. Will they show up and fight, or accept their impending doom? The talk coming out of their locker room in the past two days make it sound like it will be the latter, but we won’t know for sure until 8:30 this evening.

On the Celtics end, there are fewer questions to be answered, except whether this team will hit a bump in the road for the first time in seven games. If not, a week’s worth of rest and a trip to the NBA Finals awaits.

This team smells blood and tonight, they will be looking for the kill. Tell us what you’re seeing out there.

  • Zain

    I smell blood tonight. I want to step on their neck and leave them lifeless. I hope the C’s come out with that same intense attitude tonight.

  • Jay P

    Do we really even want 10 days rest?

    I’m certainly not arguing they should let up. But man, that’s a long time to be out of game situations before the finals.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    These videos on NBA Shootaround are dramatic. I’m excited!

    If we take this game, I’m going to be so impatient waiting for the Finals to start.

  • http://www.hotmail.com Josh

    Celtics sweep 104 – 92.

  • Brandon

    i think the celtics wnning this game is huge, give them a lot fo rest before the finals. I’ll be extremely anxious wating for game 1 but the more rest the better as you can see from this playoff performance. They arent doing anything they should “lose” they ar ejust more physical and “want it” more, You dont lose heart because of a longer layoff

  • VenturaCelticFan…FTL

    Brian….how do you not have the guy from Indiana Jones and th Temple of Doomas the picture for this thread…you know the dude with the fingernails that was tipping people’s hearts out? It describes our defense to a tee!

  • MP

    We’re getting owned tonight.

    =D

  • sacbobv

    Magic heart was cut out on Saturday, now let’s squeeze it till it stops beating.

    Go Celts!!

  • DEC

    Assuming the Celtics win tonight, what would be the optimum result for the Western Conference Finals? Would a long series, giving Boston a longer rest, most benefit the Green, or would it be better for that series to be wrap ASAP, allowing the red-hot C’s to keep rolling without too much interruption?

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    I like this MP tradition of us getting owned in the pre-game comments.

    ON the rest issue: Don’t worry about it. You just win and everything takes care of itself. This is a veteran team. Rest is good, especially if it results from Kobe and Bynum having to run up and down the court against the Suns for another three or four games.

  • sacbobv

    @zach
    Wonder how long Bynum will last running up and down chasing the Suns, not very I hope.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Magic are definitely off to a better start today than in game 3. I think they’ve had a guy open on each offensive possession so far.

  • DeVelaine

    I know what I’m not seeing tonight… Defense.

  • sacbobv

    Not so sharp on D so far, could be better. Scratch that, will be better.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Okay… our D has left guys open on every single defensive possession. Argh.

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    Offensively, this is exactly how Orlando has to play. They look great so far. Can they keep it up, though?

  • sacbobv

    @Zach
    I vote no, they won’t be able to sustain it.

  • Matt

    Rondo is getting picked off on screens and the defensive rotations are too slow. Good thing Paul is hitting so far.

  • MP

    Dammit, I’m regretting the smiley face. We’re definitely losing this game.

  • DRJ1

    Celtics started out looking overconfident. Especially Rondo. Or maybe Ray’s comments about the 4th quarter are what’s in their heads… turn it on then? Whatever… not very good so far.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    I thought the Magic might come out with energy. Looks like the C’s weren’t ready for that. Let’s step it up!

    I’m kind of hoping for a competitive game where the C’s come out on top. A series that’s too easy can make a team too relaxed. Just look at the Magic this series. And the Celtics this quarter!

  • sacbobv

    Tony- remember your do’s and dont’s!

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Stan and Doc should have a scream-off. They have the most amusing voices.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Now the Magic have some of their confidence back.

    Thibs! Do something!

  • Zain

    I find it ridiculous that the commentators are screaming joy over Rashard Lewis’s play when he hits one wide open corner trey. Really, isn’t that all he can do?

  • MP

    I don’t like it when Rondo’s in foul trouble…anyway, good offense but we gave up way too many points that quarter. Gotta closeout on those threes.

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    Well, the Magic aren’t rolling over. Time to ratchet things up a bit.

  • Sophomore

    It’s all about the multiple picks for Nelson. Sets everything else up.

  • Sophomore

    @DRJ1 – agree on Rondo – probably his worst quarter of the playoffs.

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    Why is Nate Robinson in the game?

  • Sophomore

    It’s ugly out there.

  • Zain

    Why is Nate shooting?

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Why is Nate in the game, and why are we wasting all these fouls, and why does our defense suck?

  • MP

    Why the hell is Rondo still out? Everything looks out of sync and disjointed.

  • Zain

    Rondo is probably out to rest his legs for the 2nd half, I expect him to return in the game soon. And as I type this, Rondo and KG return.

  • Sophomore

    Rondo dribbled the ball off his foot?? Also, we need better hedging to help Rondo defend on screens

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    Trouble.

  • Jay P

    Celtics started the game sloppy, too many turnovers already.

    Magic are a completely different team. Their being aggressive, moving the ball, making the extra pass, and hitting shots.

    This is the team we expected to play from the start, wonder where they were for 3 games?

  • DRJ1

    Well…. so far they Celtics are proving that they’re still capable of stinking up the place.

    Home games. Where the crowd yells “DE-FENSE” so loudly, our players can’t HEAR each other on defense.

  • complexity

    That’s a bit harsh DR. And look at that confidence that Pierce is displaying, if he keeps making shots, makes a few passes. Wow. Celtics will be up in no time.

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    That Perk turnaround one-handed shot was awful. C’s down 4 with a chance to cut it to two and he does that? He knows better.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    @DRJ1 – Hahah. I like that.

  • complexity

    @Zach, that is a shot that you take when you don’t want to give up the ball because you finally got it. He has been taking a few of them lately.

  • sacbobv

    @DRJ1
    If it was more than 4 points, I’d kinda agree. Not too worried at this point of the game

  • MP

    To be fair, the Magic have only scored 12 points in ten minutes this quarter. We’re just having to clean up after the awful first quarter.

  • Zain

    I like when Carter is in as opposed to Redick! Damn!

  • Sophomore

    What’s wrong with Rondo? Doesn’t look right.

  • Sophomore

    And now he’s left the bench early.

  • complexity

    Is Rondo’s nose falling off or something?

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    Why is he hiding his face with the towel? What is going on????

  • Zain

    Robinson with a solid play..followed by a dumb foul.

    Hope Rondo is fine, my guess is an early return to the locker room since he’s done for the half. I doubt there is anything wrong..

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    Hey, that’s Nate. he has no clue how to play NBA defense, let alone guard a red-hot PG.

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    All things considered, I’ll take being down 4 at half. Rondo has been a non-factor for all but about 2 minutes of the game. If he’s OK, this is obviously winnable.

  • Jay P

    I have no idea Zach, that was so weird.

    Anyway, decent half all around, the Cs can obviously play better, but you have to be happy we’re within 4.

    LOVE Pierce’s aggression, 10 FTs in the first half is awesome, hope it continues.

    Refs are starting to piss me off… the Davis travel, the TA foul were god awful calls (to be fair, they missed a blatant one on Perkins too.)

  • DRJ1

    Rondo looked fine before he left. I think he was just hiding from the camera. Seemed like he wanted to go in for nothing serious. On the other hand… Rondo has not looked right all game. Tired, lackadaisical, overconfident…. sick? Who knows…

    Well… Cs allowed them to gain some confidence. Now it’s gonna be a knock-down drag-out fight to the finish. Wouldn’t be surprised of the Magic win this one… save a little face, etc. And the Celtics make a little more $, of course…………

  • Jay P

    Ok now the Refs are REALLY starting to piss me off.

  • Zain

    Verdict on the elbow?

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Oh boy. This game is getting nasty.

  • Matt

    Here comes the energy.

  • Zain

    Thank you Magic, for waking us up.

  • KG

    AND1!!

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    We’ve been keeping it close. Now let’s push past that and take the lead!

  • Sophomore

    @Zain – yep. and a special thank you to Dwight Howard.

  • DRJ1

    You GOTTA love Kevin Garnett. Not matter what game it is, no matter how far ahead you are…. he is all-in. Every second. Gotta love that guy. The greatest.

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    C’s could really use a three. Just 1-5 so far.

  • Zain

    Ray’s been cold from the 3. Gonna need him to get going, especially with the next round looming. I’m really tired of these moving screens.

  • I love Green

    Vicious elbow

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Man, we’ve been keeping it close, but can we please, please, please get over the hump?

  • I love Green

    Damn those shots gotta fall!

    And Ray hits a three right as I type this

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Are they ever gonna T Dwight up?

  • Zain

    Whoever holds their composure wins this game.

  • I love Green

    Get a couple stops and take the lead! Lets go!

  • I love Green

    Holy hell how do you make that

  • I love Green

    Great hustle from Perkins!

  • I love Green

    We can’t fuckin stop them right now!!! Its pissing me off

  • Zain

    Pierce is barely getting lift on his jump.

  • Jay P

    Rondo looks tired… is he sick maybe?

  • I love Green

    @Zain- Probably just tired legs. Its fine he’ll have over a week to rest them

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    big spark from Baby right here. SOme nice shows on D and a nice, patient, steady J right there. Gotta get over the hump here.

  • Zain

    I meant that Pierce was tired, and I hope he can finish the game off. We need to close this out tonight.

  • I love Green

    Damn how wasn’t that a foul on Pierce?

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Yeah, why’d we rush that possession?

  • Sophomore

    Man am I sick of watching Jameer Nelson run wild. C’mon Tony.

  • Sophomore

    Alright. We won the second quarter and the third. Let’s win the fourth to close it out.

  • Jay P

    Wasnt a foul, Pierce initiated the body contact, defenders went straight up, block was all ball.

    That’s what happens when you go straight at 3 defenders though. Not a smart play by Paul.

  • RBD

    Orlando plays three really solid quarters and trails by one heading to the fourth. Boston could lose this game but why delay the inevitable. Orlando just isn’t good enough.

  • Zain

    Time to dig deep and pull it out. This is what champions are made of.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    TA!!! Grrr!

  • RBD

    Tony Allen – falls asleep on the court.

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    Nervous times here in the Lowe household. The girlfriend is probably happy she’s in China right now. Nice shot clock violation to open the quarter.

  • Zain

    I wish Rondo had seen Ray open early on the break for the transition trey.

  • RBD

    @Zach

    Funny. My girlfriend is in India and she’s almost happy to be away from me yelling at the TV when Boston plays.

  • I love Green

    Screw Redick!

  • I love Green

    PLEASE Doc take out Sheed. Put in KG. He just gave them a free point, and a posession

  • RBD

    The offense is a disaster right now.

  • Zain

    There’s that TA/RONDO action

  • I love Green

    Okay TA sit down. You’re done for tonight

  • RBD

    Has anyone else noticed TA starting to revert to dumb-Tony the last couple games?

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    Celtics have made about 6 awful choices already in this quarter.

    And Sheed looks like Sheed again .

  • I love Green

    @RBD- Noticing it a lot this game

  • Sophomore

    Easily Sheed’s worst game, Rondo’s worst game, TA’s worst game. Ray’s playing OK. Basically in this because of PP.

  • RBD

    I hope they respond out of this timeout. Feel like Orlando is winning the emotional battle right now.

  • Berkcelt

    TA has slipped the past couple games. I believe that’s also when he hurt his foot, isn’t it?

  • Zain

    All the more reason we end this with a gritty win. We need to heal.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    We couldn’t even hold onto the lead for one minute. This does not bode well for us.

  • I love Green

    Hopefully that Big Baby charge will spark this team

  • Sophomore

    OTOH, tonight I think BBD is their best option at center.

  • I love Green

    Wowwwww really dumb foul by Ray. Baby and KG were on him right there he wasn’t going to make that shot.

  • Sophomore

    I’d like to thank BBD for making me look good :)

  • I love Green

    Big Baby is a big time player. He always steps up in the playoffs

  • I love Green

    Woah Rashard got right into the refs face and no Tech called?! AHHHH

  • Jay P

    Glen Davis, 6 man of the year

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    Oh, man, this is brutal.

  • I love Green

    Oh baby if Rondo would have made that the Garden would have exploded

  • complexity

    If this was game 6 of the finals, people would seriously have to consider Glenn Davis for finals MVP.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Stops and good offensive possessions. Stops and good offensive possessions. Stops and good offensive possessions.

  • RBD

    Game’s right there for the taking.

  • Sophomore

    He really adds a dimension Perk can’t on the offensive side, and they haven’t solved his D.

  • Sophomore

    What I don’t love is the last several possessions on offense. Too much standing around off the ball.

  • MP

    ESPN’s reporting that Thib will probably be a Hornet soon.

  • I love Green

    Up 2!! 5 minutes left lets go!!

  • Matt

    Dwight and Rashard look worried. Or is that just me projecting?

  • I love Green

    Damn it Pierce!!

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Again, we are unable to hold on to the lead for even a minute.

  • RBD

    We’re running the offense through Pierce. Mistake, I think.

  • Jay P

    Offense has went dry, and now their in the penalty, not good.

  • Jay P

    Im convinced something is up with rondo right now, he seems just completely unable to take this offense over like he has all series.

  • Sophomore

    This does not look good. I’d love to see them get a transition opportunity, but Orlando has been recovering well and I don’t think Rondo is100%.

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    Team looks tired. That three days of rest thing might be helpful after all. This feels like an L.

  • Sophomore

    Thank you Rashard. One more, please. We need all the help we can get.

  • Sophomore

    Crap.

  • Sophomore

    And we have a Mrs. Allen sighting!

  • Matt

    Right back in it.

  • Jay P

    Ray Allen screaming THIS AINT OVER YET!

  • complexity

    Tired. Wow, what a shot by Ray and what a dunk by Pierce! Holy!

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    This has felt like an L from the start.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    I love Mrs. Allen.

  • Sophomore

    Terrible call.

  • Sophomore

    Karmic justice.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    I can’t take this!

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    What??? Why didn’t we call timeout???

  • Sophomore

    Gee. Who could’ve predicted that a PP iso would end in tragedy?

  • Jay P

    ARGH Enough of the Pierce isolation! It worked once against Miami, not a reason to do it at the end OF EVERY FREAKING QUARTER

  • DRJ1

    We’ve seen every Celtics flaw of the season here tonight… one after the other. Far as I can see, they haven’t earned a win.

  • complexity

    Ray was open Pierce, come on :(

  • Zain

    We didnt have any timeouts I think.

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    Technically, it wasn’t an ISO–it was the Pierce, Ray screen and fade that they run all the time at the end. Magic saw it coming.

  • http://espn jeffrey

    You could tell that the celtics do not want to finish the series in four games

  • Sophomore

    @Zach – fair enough. But the pick came awful late.

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    Did the C’s have a TO? I assume they did.

  • Sophomore

    Good idea by Rondo. Be great to get Nelson out of the game. Too bad he tunred into the center where Howard could get his shot.

  • Zain

    I’m pretty sure I heard them say C’s had no timeouts.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Another 5 minutes of insanity. Oh boy. I don’t know how much more of this I can take.

  • Matt

    Can’t hit a shot.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    This is over.

  • Sophomore

    Are we seriously going to lose this game because Jameer Nelson banked in a 3?

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    @Sophomore – We’re going to lose because he hit back-to-back 3s.

  • Jay P

    Terrible shots by Nelson, 30% makes at best.

  • Zain

    This is gonna be a crushing defeat if we lose. Wow. Banked 3?

  • complexity

    That’s blasphemy against Jesus.

  • Sophomore

    @miss j. – Ack! He hit the second one about a second after I submitted the comment.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Crap.

  • Sophomore

    Jesus saves?

  • Allen

    RAY ALLEN!!!

  • Jay P

    Ray Allen screaming THIS STILL AINT OVER YET!

  • Zain

    Man those offensive boards are killing us! Ray’s hot.

  • Sophomore

    I think that was it.

  • Allen

    Garnett turnover. It’s over

  • Sophomore

    PP doesn’t have the legs.

  • Zain

    @Soph

    Said that in the 3rd. Sigh!

  • Sophomore

    Dang. Sloppy.

  • complexity

    Everyone knew that Ray wasn’t going to get another 3 after that second one.

  • Sophomore

    Only consolation is that DH and Jameer can’t play any better.

  • Jay P

    I’m disgusted with this game. AWFUL final possessions, they should be better than that. Where was the heart from Game 3, they quit in this one.

  • DRJ1

    A fitting ending to a lousy game

  • I love Green

    Im fucking pissed. They looked like they didn’t even want to win. Honestly now I have to be this pissed off for two days. We had a GREAT chance to end the series tonight, and get a week off until the finals.

    Now we lose game 5, Magic get lucky in game 6, then they blow us out in game 7. First team to lose a series when up 3-0 the 2010 Boston Celtics.

  • Matt

    @Jay P

    Come on now. I can understand being disgusted with the game but it’s not because they quit. They just executed very poorly at both of the endgames.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    I feel lousy. I’ve been trying to distract myself for the last 10 minutes, but I can’t get this game out of my head or off my chest. I can’t believe how emotionally invested I am in this team and how difficult it is to detach myself!

  • joe

    uh oh. pressures on BOS now

  • I love Green

    I don’t think they knew that they had a chance to go to the finals if they won.

  • DRJ1

    JayP– they didn’t quit playing. They never started. It was bad right from tipoff.

    I just wonder if this has something to do with the millions of dollars they lose with every missed playoff game. Probably not. But I still wonder.

  • http://hoopstersworld.blogspot.com miss j.moxie

    Now that the C’s have given the Magic their confidence back, the Magic go home and win one there. All of a sudden, it’s 3-2, and the Magic know they can win a 7-game series down 3-2 against Boston.

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