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It’s Official: Nate Robinson Is A Boston Celtic

 

The official confirmation went down about 30 minutes ago according to The Boston Herald. Both sides are just now waiting on league approval. As expected, the deal has The Celtics sending Bill Walker, J.R. Giddens and Eddie House to the New York Knicks for guard Nate Robinson and forward Marcus Landry. Still no word on when Landry/Robinson are expected to join the team. The said deal also works with the salaries, thanks to a couple C’s trade exceptions they had lined up from last year in dealing away Sam Cassell and Patrick O’Bryant at the deadline.

Other item of note from The Herald piece is exactly how many teams the C’s talked to about dealing Ray. The list was quite extensive:

A team source said that the Cs looked into acquiring Phoenix forward Amare Stoudemire, for instance. Management also looked into possible trades for Utah’s Carlos Boozer, Miami’s Michael Beasley, Philadelphia’s Andre Iguodala and Golden State’s Monta Ellis.

Quick Analysis: A lot of Celtics fans are going to be disappointed that this is the only deal the C’s have made at the deadline, considering the number of other deals that went down around the league. The truth is, Danny Ainge hands were tied, given the team’s salary concerns for next year (63 million committed to just 6 players) making it tough for the team to absorb any bad contract that would be required in return for receiving any “impact” player the C’s were looking for, as seen in the excerpt above.

The C’s had plenty of expiring contracts to deal besides Ray Allen, but all of those guys were either a) lacking talent that would make them appealing to other teams (Giddens, Walker, Scalabrine, Williams) b) important parts of the team’s rotation (Daniels, TA, House)

So what did Danny come up with? He managed to flip a great shooter who does little to nothing else well in Eddie House, along with some filler, for Nate Robinson, a younger more athletic version of Eddie House. He isn’t afraid to shoot, he can drive to the hoop as well as any guard in the league, and he provides Doc with a very explosive late game guard option.

Make no mistake, the Celtics main problem lately has been on the offensive end, primarily with the starters. There have been a lot of problems lately with specific players, but one thing is clear: When Rajon Rondo isn’t attacking, this team’s offense stalls in the 2nd half. Instead of counting on Rondo down the stretch, Danny gave Doc an alternative here in Robinson. Someone who, like Eddie, isn’t afraid to take the big shot, but also is much more multi-dimensional than Eddie i.e. someone who can do more than just shoot. Eddie couldn’t defend quicker guards, making him a liability late in games. Nate can at least hold his own defending, as well as penetrate to the basket with authority.

All in all, given the hand Ainge was dealt, he did the best he could. In adding Robinson, he makes a clear upgrade, while not damaging the team’s future prospects at all, at least financially or by giving up future draft picks. Eddie is 31 and likely would have been gone after this year anyway, and although Bill Walker has shown flashes, if they want him after this year for a minimum deal, the team probably could get him back anyway.

In the meantime, be sure to watch how Rajon Rondo responds to this deal. Doc has never been afraid to bench Rondo late in games for Eddie if the young guard is playing tentative and now he has a better alternative to Eddie in Robinson. If Rajon does not respond well, we could see a lot of Nate in crunch time with the C’s, which could be a very good or bad thing. Time will only tell.

  • http://celticsboard.net NickFaldo

    You pretty much summed up the pros of this trade. I don’t think this will negatively affect Rajon. I think it will push him to improve on his shooting. Rajon’s a very competitive dude. Perhaps the two can even play together some minutes and create a lot of offense. Of course, we need KG healing and the other bigs ready to help the smaller guys out on defense if necessary. I guess that option will depend on matchups and chemistry.

  • http://celticshub.com Brendan Jackson

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yh7ah2f

    That’s a lot of money to commit to 7 guys next season but it’s all or nothing anyway right?

  • http://www.celticshub.com Zach Lowe

    I’ve been trying to build a trade with Phoenix and just haven’t been able to do it. The C’s don’t have the talent assets alone to make Phoenix bite–they were lukewarm on Hickson and Z–so I’ve been trying to use a third team and coming up empty.

  • http://celticshub.com Brendan Jackson

    @Zach
    I know. Absolutely no talent they’d want. I was thinking future first round picks might have worked…but would it have been worth it…?

  • Josh A

    Was there any chance the Celtics were trading Ray today??Rumors I was told was that J-Rich was on the market.

  • Josh A
  • http://celticshub.com Brendan Jackson

    @Josh A
    You need to hit the Save Trade button and then copy and paste the link they provide…unless of course, you just want to give a trade machine link.

  • Josh A
  • I love Green

    @Josh, I actually would not mind doing that trade. Having Barbosa start, because he can hit 3s filling Rays role, and J-Rich being the 6th man. I like that trade.

  • I love Green

    Also on the Nate trade. Anyone know anything about this Landry guy? Is he a defender, offensive player, or does he just suck?

  • I love Green

    Nevermind I looked up his stats. He hasn’t gotten any minutes to do anything.

  • garnbarn

    i feel like its not a terrible deal, but i defintely dont think its the best they couldve done, obviously everyone loves ray allen but if they couldve put a package for someone like andre or boozer why woiuldnt they

    i dont know all the details so dont go nuts on me im just wondering if those were possible deals

  • mitch

    i wouldv’e gave up SHEED, scal, and big baby for boozer and c.j miles

  • sj

    any word on nate playing tonight or no ?

  • Josh A

    If we keep Ray, we can sign him at the end of the year for low price and get another key player.. I dont think nate willl play. offficial news has not been said tht nate is traded

  • JP

    I think the Robinson trade is good overall, although the C’s will miss Eddie. Any chance of the Knicks buying House out? Also, to comment on Robinson and Rondo in the lineup together, that could be a good small line up, although Rajon would probobly have to play the 2, which isn’t all that attractive.

  • Josh A

    Nate will add a boost to the team that they really need. He is 25 years old and makes the Celtics lot younger with Perk, Rajon, TA and Glen Davis. Eddie may be a good 3 point shooter, but pierce has done amazing this year from behind the arc so look for paul to continue his great shooting

  • garnbarn

    i dont know howmuch they would play together they would prolly have nate and marquis play together wouldnt they?

  • garnbarn

    good point josh a well said

  • Josh A

    I think Nate could work well with the Celtics because he knows he is with a great team and wanting a ring. I had rumor that the Celtics were thinking about J-Rich. Anyone want to add to this rumor?

  • Dawson C.

    Glad they did not trade Ray, but this is a disastrous trade. Eddie was a clutch perfomer, a champion, and most importantly a positive force in the locker room — everyone apparently likes him.

    I can remember at least three instances over the past two playoff seasons where Eddie changed the flow of the game the Celts way. Plus, he extends the defense, which opens up Rondo.

    What in the hell has Nate Robinson done? We don’t need another one-on-one, put your head down, Knicks reject penetrator who is going to burp up running 12 footers (Hello Stephon Marbury). There is a reason Mike D’Antoni benched Robinson earlier this season on a crappy Knicks team.

  • Josh A

    @Dawson C.- I understand what u r saying but Nate adds youth and energy to a team needing it. Paul is shooting great from 3 and he will pick up Eddie’s 3′s. Look for the Celtics to maybe resign eddie if knoicks let him roam the free agency

  • garnbarn

    yeah obviously eddie is da man evryone liks him, but the celts have just not looked good at all, adding guy like nate gives them alot of energy and someone thatll pick up the pace cuz boston just struggled with the kings first game out of the break, not the best sign, bringing in nate is a good thing i think, i guess we just gotta see i suppose

  • dont_drink_the_koolaid

    solid upgrade by danny. will also add some entertainment value.

    there are always ‘what ifs’…..but i’m just glad the deadline is gone. we know our troops for the rest the year. time to go back to battle!!

  • sj

    @josh a , i hope he does play i would love to see him as a celtic specially first game agaisnt fakers , and i think he will be number 4 and i think marcus landry will be number 8 or 12 i would not give them eddies old number fans wouldnt like that .

  • Cptn Bubbles

    I think the reality of what this all boils down to is that you have a new guy to SIT on the bench. Doc worships the starters above all. The starters can play terrible & look in need of hospitalization & Doc will still have them dragging themselves up & down the floor. Paul could be on crutches, KG could be in traction, Ray could be in a body cast, & Doc would still wheel them out there on the court.

    Nate will get to play….limited minutes. Nate will not play enough minutes to really make a huge impact. You could bring all kinds of guys in, but Doc is going to stick with his starters until they are traded or retire. The majority of the time that we see Nate is going to be sitting on the bench.

  • sj

    @ Cptn Bubbles , i am not worried about him trying to be a stater hes a rental meaning we have him for 2 months then playoffs then his contract is up so we might not sign him back .

  • Josh A

    @sj, he wil not play in the game tonight. no chance. UNLESS, he already left for Boston early today and got with the team(but i doubt it) Other than the things I said about Nate helping them, I think he will increase sales for the Celtics. Everyone loves slam dunk champions so i think they will benefit with money and talent. @cptn bubbles- Nate will get his time playing as the second point guard on DEFENSE. shooting guard on OFFENSE, u understand y

  • sj

    @josh a , yeah i hope i been waiting all year for this trade lol but i will miss eddie house and i will miss bill walker just seeing him dunk i know one day he could be a very good player maybe a starter and he could of been in the dunk contest with nate but bill declined and said ill rather be with my mother and as for giddens as many people say he doesnt seem like an NBA player very good in d league though and did you see the memphis vs laker game a while ago our fellow lester hudson got 12 mins of playing time at sg and got 13 points ! and was defended by kobe i think they should have kept him and he helped rondo because before every game they would go one on one and work on jump shots and i must say sincce then rondo gotten better a jumpers and specially if you saw tht horse game ! it was far shots tht rondo made .

  • Cptn Bubbles

    Guys, I’m not talking about Nate’s talent or ability. I’m talking about coaching. What has Doc done with the bench for the entire season? Nate can play great or Nate can play mediocre or poorly. It won’t matter to Doc. The starters are going to get their minutes regardless of what Nate does in his limited bench minutes. Nate won’t be able to make a huge impact because of Doc. Most of the time Nate is going to be sitting.

  • garnbarn

    @bubbles, obviously your best players are going to play a majority of the minutes but look at how baby did it in the playoffs last year, all you need (and not to sounds corny) is one oppurtunity and nate could be a great player for the c’s

  • garnbarn

    i just disagree alot, rasheed and perk split alot, obviousl kg is way better then baby so hell play more, daniels is just coming back from injury so hes just getting into the rotation, and who else is there obviously bill walker or giddens wouldnt play alot

  • sj

    im happy with rasheed as of late he is puttin work down in the post i think he took one or 2 threes against kings and i think he made 1 for 1 or 1 for 2

  • Cptn Bubbles

    Just a few recent examples. Quis was playing great vs the bugs, Doc yanked him & played Paul to the very end. It was probably Paul’s worst game of his career, but Doc would not sub. Baby was having a great game vs the bugs, he got yanked. Quis had a great game vs Orlando. He got yanked. TA had a great game vs the Lakers. He got yanked.

    It’s not about how you are playing. Nate could be great (I hope he is), but Doc wants the starters, no matter how badly they are playing to be in there. Doc sees the bench only as a pit stop for the starters.

  • sj

    bubbless , i disagree when they played the orlando magic starters got themselves in a mess and doc put tha bench players in and they got it going so he kept them in for about 10 mins , also when starters mess things up and lose the lead he keeps them in there and let them fix what they did just like phil jackson a long time ago lakers were down by 25 yes 25 points and he didnt call a time out or made a sub untill they got the lead again and they did and they won that game by 13 so they get them selves into a mess and get themselves out of a mess .

  • Josh A

    Guys: We are trying to make our team younger and bringing in nate robinson (25 years old) will help. For you who are saying the big three need to play more, tht is terrible. We need to rest them. it does not matter how we do for the rest of the season as long as we make the playoffs. To get another ring, Garnett will need to be healthy

  • sj

    yehh i agree i wouldnt mind given ray rest or even a few games off! we play him to much maybe thts why he doesnt make his shots and get back spasims i mean cut him a break hes almost 35 . or he is 35 .

  • Cptn Bubbles

    Leaving a hobbled Paul in the game at the Pacers & at the Hornets got us 2 losses. Paul was not going to work out anything in those 2 games. I’m not saying take all the starters out. I’m saying if a starter is hobbled or having a terrible shooting/ defensive night then 1 or maybe even 2 bench players should play it out. Phil Jackson makes more subs than Doc during games & will leave a guy coming off the bench in, prime example being Lamar.

    Doc needs to have accountability for the starters. If they are crippled, lazy, not in the game mentally, etc. then it is not anathema to play a bench guy & sit the starter.

  • sj

    i looked it up hes 34* turnin 35 july 20th and funny thts his basketball number .

  • Josh A

    Fact: Nate has better stats in points per game, assists per game,rebounds per game, and FG %. just for those of you who think nate will hurt us

  • sj

    @ josh yhu sed nate prob. wont play but is there a time change in LA ? were im from the game is on at 10:30 pm witch gives him plenty of time to get to LA to play .

  • Josh A

    yeah same with me, but from new york to los angeles still a long ride and he has to get the plays rdy (like memorize them)

  • sj

    and about tha nate will not affect us thing only thing eddie does better then him is free throws eddie is 90 percent from there and nate is a 77 percent at tha line .

  • Josh A

    @sj, they may be true but nate will still score lots, rondo can’t hit free throws but he is still an all star….

  • sj

    yeahh true i jus wanna see him play tonight so bad our last game against the lakers for the year unless we can go to the finals but sadly we have hard competition this year but even tho we lost to magic cavs fans are forgettin wen they played magic in playoffs and lost 2 games to 4 in other hands celtics lost but 3 games to 4 so i still dont think cavs can pull it off this year and btw i think nuggets are gunna break cavs winnin streak tonight .

  • Josh A

    who doesn’t want to see him play. but sources say he will not play. The league has not aprooved of the trade yet so there is no chance.

  • sj

    ugh bummerr well we get to see him play tomarroo vs blazers and marcus camby will play tht game against us .

  • Josh A

    ok well adios ppl. maybe if celtics hub gives me a job, i will share all my facts with u guys

  • Matt Daney

    Is there a chance of Nate Robinson playing tonight?

  • Josh A

    NO, nate robinson is not playing tonight as official sources just came out a few hours ago tht Nate was traded. He may be available for tomorrow’s game, but nothing is confirmed yet,

  • http://celticsboard.net NickFaldo

    Myself and Mooltrikon in the forum agreed on an idea. If Doc had given Hudson a chance as the backup pg, then this trade might not have been necessary. If bu pg was not a problem, then Danny could have traded for frontcourt help. Then we might have been able to steal #18. Now it all rests on KG’s knee, period. I never once thought Doc was a bad coach until this year. If he can’t figure out how to manage player minutes, it could be time to find a new one.

  • Josh A

    Hey Nick, Your right, garnett has to rest but Sheed is just not performing like past years. Do you think we should of got a big man

  • http://celticsboard.net NickFaldo

    I think Sheed is starting to fit in. I’ve been impressed with his defense all year. He is what heis, pretty good for a sub. Yes, I am being a Monday morning quarterback. Doc should have gone with Hudson from the start, even before Marquis got injured. He should have kept Ray at 30 minutes a game, period. He should sit Paul when he’s hobbling instead of doing whatever Paul tells him to do. Yes, if Hudson had developed, we could have traded for a big man, which is what we need. Baby isn’t the tallest. Scal is weak. We’re missing PJ or at least another 6-11 dude like Sheed. I also think we should live or die by the Perk. Play him 35-40 minutes every game, unless he’s in foul trouble.

  • john robles

    Hope to see Nate, play against Portland …..
    We took care of Lakers …..

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