Post-game Reactions

The big news of the day: Those of you worried about the Cavs getting Jamison are going to be even angrier about how they got him. The Cavs and Wiz took advantage of the Clippers’ cheapness/smart desire to get far under the cap for next season and roped them into the a three-teamer, according to Yahoo!

Cavs receive: Antawn Jamison, Sebastian Telfair

Wizards receive: Al Thornton, Brian Skinner (expiring), Zyndrunas Ilgauskas (expiring, likely to be waived), Cleveland first-round pick, the rights to Emir Preldzic, Cleveland’s second-round pick in last year’s draft.

Clippers receive: Drew Gooden

So, if you wondering what it took for the Cavs to land Antawn Jamison and his 20.5 points per game, it took this: A late first-round draft pick and Ilgauskas, who may return to the Cavs in a month. J.J. Hickson remains a Cavalier, giving the Cavs a pretty healthy stable of power forwards once Leon Powe returns. 

This is mostly possible because of the Clippers. 

The Clips shave another $5.5 million off of next year’s payroll by ridding themselves of Thornton and Telfair (who held a player option), putting them about $20 million under the projected cap. You better believe they are going after LeBron guns-a-blazin’. 

The Clips also provide a semi-promising young-ish player (Thornton, who recently turned 26) to entice the Wiz to pull the trigger without Hickson in the deal. 

You have to admit: This is a pretty genius deal for the Cavs. Danny Ferry did well here…unless LeBron signs with the Clips in a few months. And the Clippers are either unbelievably cheap (they’ll likely save about $700,000 this year) or smart and forward-thinking (the aforementioned cap space). It’s not like Thornton and Telfair could be considered super-promising at this point. Bassy is Bassy, and Thornton, though he averaged nearly 17 per game last season, has never had a PER as higher than 13 and has intermittent shot selection issues. 

• In other news, John Salmons will not play tonight at New York, apparently because the Bulls are trading him, according to Marc Stein. No word on where Salmons is going, but it’s not a surprise. Chicago, like the Clips, is positioning themselves for this summer, and Salmons has a $5.8 million option he’s sure to exercise for next season. 

I’ve always thought Salmons would fit well in Boston and have mentioned him here often. We’ll see where he goes.

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  • CF

    OK… Drew Gooden, as a newly acquired player is not allowed to be included in this deal right? There’s a restriction… so what gives?

  • Rocci

    CF, people will correct me if I’m wrong, but I think a player can be traded again 48 hours after the original deal goes down. After that, they can’t be traded for like six months or something.

    Well this is pretty depressing news. It won’t be the worst thing in the world if LeBron ends up in LA (or really anywhere in the Western Conference) after this season, but he won’t. He won’t.

    Ah, well…I guess there’s always drinking!

  • Sam

    Damn I really don’t like this.

  • Cptn Bubbles

    Danny Ferry is looking like a genius here. Based on past history, the Clippers will do just about anything. It’s really surprising that they did not sell off the #1 pick last year. To bad Danny couldn’t tap into that.

  • CF

    @Rocci… The Mavs-Wiz trade was made official on Saturday. Which was longer than 48 hrs ago.

  • sj

    i think the clippers gm is crazy he just wants there team to get worse and worse . but im a celtics fan im jus sayin. all tht for drew gooden like are yhu serious ?

  • Cptn Bubbles

    I think I would always try to take advantage of, I mean include the Clippers in any trade I was thinking of making…..

  • NBAFan

    No and I’m fine with that. It seems that teams realized that the Wiz had no leverage (They didn’t want to include Haywood, but no one else was willing to trade for Butler and take Stevenson too). No one else was touching Jamison. Hickson would have been sweet, but it was much more important to dump Jamison.

  • NBAFan

    Sorry – last comment was posted in the wrong place.

    A player can be traded immediately but only by himself for 60 days. The Wiz likely swapped Gooden for Thornton in a separate deal. I assume the salaries worked because of the Clips trade exception from the Randolph deal.

    It’s a big gamble for CLE. If Lebron leaves, then Ferry blew all their cap space on a way overpaid guy in his mid-30s.

  • CF

    Hey NBAfan… the scenario you are mentioning doesn’t work either according to the trade machine. I’ve tried just about everything possible and I really have no understanding as to why Gooden is eligible for this deal. No one in ESPN’s chatboxes will address it. Gooden makes 4 mill… Thornton makes about 1 mill. Those just don’t add up even with the trade excepts. Both teams are over the cap.

  • Dave

    I’m not 100% sure about the restrictions on trading a player multiple times, however I’m positive that conditions do exist wherein a player can be traded many times in a short span. For reference, see: Richardson, Quentin

    Great value for Cavs, enough savings to try to improve next year for the Clips and plenty of savings for the Wiz…win-win-win deal since the Clips and Wiz weren’t playing for anything this season anyways.

  • Berkcelt

    It’s a good deal for the Cavs, but I think it’s a little overdramatic to say they got “Jamison for nothing”. He’s got negative value on that contract. He looks like a great fit for the stretch run but next year he is 34 with $28M due and an injury history. They best win the title this year so the Lebron feels compelled to defend his title in CLE. If they don’t he might look at the team and see two more years of pretty much the same and decide to fly.

  • rav

    If Salmons is gone, then I think Hinrich can be had easily, as Chicago is that much closer to the space needed for two max FAs.

    But if we’re getting Nate…

    I actually wish we had got Salmons. Backup SF with adequate defense and offense. Obviously, we could have had him for expirings, because that’s all the Bucks are doing:


  • rav

    “The Clips shave another $5.5 million off of next year’s payroll by ridding themselves of Thornton and Telfair (who held a player option), putting them about $20 million under the projected cap. You better believe they are going after LeBron guns-a-blazin’. ”

    Wait wait wait. The Clippers helped the team which currently has Lebron do a trade which will help the Cavs have a greater chance of keeping Lebron even so that the Clippers could get Lebron?!!!!!!

    Dumbleavy really does seem like an apt nickname. Really don’t think LBJ is gonna give up Williams/Parker/Jamison/Moon/Hickson/Powe/West et al.


    Davis (just getting worse)/Eric Gordon/Blake Griffin (technically unproven)/Kaman/poor bench

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