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Yahoo: C’s Offered Rondo, Ray for Rip, Tay, Stuckey

 

Here’s Mr. Woj:

The Celtics offered Ray Allen(notes) and Rajon Rondo(notes) to theDetroit Pistons for a package that included Richard Hamilton(notes),Tayshaun Prince(notes) and Rodney Stuckey(notes), league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Boston general manager Danny Ainge and Detroit’s Joe Dumars never spoke, but rather the Celtics had a lower-level executive make the pitch to a Pistons official over the past weekend, league sources said. Detroit immediately rejected the idea, and it never advanced to the two top executives speaking about particulars.

This isn’t an uncommon occurrence for a GM like Ainge to dispatch an underling to make that kind of a call, if for no other reason to give the top executive some level of deniability that he’s shopping his stars.

Wow. Look, this is Woj here. This isn’t some radio station in Phoenix we’ve never heard of before.

This would set the Celtics up like this over the next two seasons:

Starters

KG

Pierce

Stuckey

Hamilton

Perkins

Bench:

Prince

The Rest

Well, that solves the team’s need for a back-up small forward, right? 

On the other hand, Hamilton is owed something like $49 million through 2013, and Prince is owed $21 million through 2011, so you could kiss goodbye any scenario (mentioned by the owner, not me) in which the C’s could take on a max deal after next season. The C’s also lose a ton of three-point shooting in this deal with Allen’s departure. 

To me, the deal boils down to two questions:

1) Are you willing to take on Rip’s salary? 

2) Do you think Stuckey has anywhere near the same potential has Rondo?

My gut reaction to both is “no,” but then again, my role here seems to be to be overly cautious about any trade that breaks up the core of this team.

This is an interesting one, though, no?

UPDATE: Ainge shoots down the rumor in the Globe, saying it has “no merit” if the trade talks never got to him, that he “loves” Rondo, and that he doesn’t expect to trade anyone from the team’s core.

  • Kevin

    I don't understand why Danny Ainge would try to give the pistons probably the bestl up and coming point guard and the last three point shooter that the Celtics have. In order for the Celtics to win the championship again, they need those two players.

  • Kevin

    I don't understand why Danny Ainge would try to give the pistons probably the best up and coming point guard and the last three point shooter that the Celtics have. In order for the Celtics to win the championship again, they need those two players.

  • Steve

    I think Danny Ainge is out of his mind with this trade, plain and simple. Rajon Rondo will be the BEST, mark my words, the BEST point guard in the NBA. Sit down Chris Paul, nevermind Tony Parker. Rondo's a hardnosed point guard who 100% made that offense last year. Ray Allen is one of the best shooters the games ever seen, whether it's at the line or behind the arc, regardless of his age and salary. But as far as Rondo, i got two words for you all … CHAUNCEY BILLUPS. Remember him? Remember what came out of that trade? This trade is downright foolish.

  • Paul

    It makes more sense to trade Allen than Rando. I heard this morning that Rando is difficult to coach sometimes and doesn't have the same chemistry in the locker room then the rest of the players. I think this is where KG and Pierce need to sit down with the point guard. In addition the Pistons are a garbage team. If Allen is trade bait then it is better trying to pick up a lottery pick and pick up someone in the off season. This happens when you give up a team a number of draft picks for KG and Allen. On the other hand Boston was able to win a championship last year.

  • Ray

    I do not want the Celtics team to be filled up with the core players of the pistons (not a winning team). Rondo is the future of the celtics organization and will soon be the leader of this team when the big three are too old. Ray Allen is our one and only sharpshooter. Overall, a ridiculous idea of Danny Ainge, hope he doesnt try anything else.

  • Andrew Sanchez

    CELTICS SUCK. PERIOD!

  • http://facebook.com James

    people keeps saying rondo is our future idk about that, its just going 2 b hard 2 sign him next summer so nothings guaranteed. We become alot deeper with this trade and add 2 players who can knock down th 3, plus get another young point guard with potential, plus the trade rapes the pistons 2 where they would just b awful next year :D

  • Ralph Ramirez

    This is crazy! Why would Danny Ainge attempt to make this trade happen! Ainge was a genius to bring Ray Allen to Boston & now he wants to trade him! We need Ray behind the arc & at the line! I think he's like 93% from the line! Plus he's made a lot of clutch shots from behind the arc time & time again! Leave Rondo alone! He's already been on the big stage & succeeded! Didn't he have one of his best games in game 6 in last years finals to help close out the series! Been there done that & he's only going to get better as he matures! The C's need to work on their bench & go out & get an established 6 man to pick up the slack! They have their veterans in the big 3 & should build around Rondo, Perkins, Big Baby, & Leon Powe! All who are still young!

  • Jeff C.

    Rondo is the future of the Celtics. Just needs to develop his jumpshot. Celtics will be able to afford Rondo next summer as long as Ainge is creative. There will be some casualties along the way in order to resign Rondo (Big Baby?), but it can happen. I agree with Ralph Ramirez …all we need to do is get better on the bench. We can still make a run at another championship (or 2)with this current team.

    Hook it up Ainge…ukenduit!!!

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  • http://celticshub.com Daron

    Danny Ainge the only reason the celtics didn't repeat cause Garnett was hurt so don't break your team up with silly trade talks don't touch your starting line up sign house and davis back please and Ray allen will be a free agent after next season his contract won't be so high try to work out a one year deal with Matt Barnes or Moon just like we did with Posey a year ago and try to keep marbury

  • http://celticshub.com Daron

    Remember Ainge this team went 62-20 with KG missing a lot of games and when he is healthy it take pressure off everybody this not the year to break this team up players like house and rondo win championship cause the big three make it so easy for them

  • http://espn.com Kevin R.

    Someone said it perfectly and simply. Rajon Rondo is the future of the Boston Celtics. We saw this past post-season that this team can win without a KG in the line-up. Without KG almost every other player on the team has had to get better and step up there own game. With KG back the Celtics will be deadly.

    If Ainge makes this move, he will have gone from the best GM in the 2008 Finals, to the worse GM at the beginning of the 2009 season.

  • csm99

    Boston got to greedy we should have said prince, and stuckey for rondo and our 2nd draft pick this year .Maybe even put in tony .

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